Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-02-03 Thread David Stein
Hey Jeremy - Good point. I have kind of given up already though and put the smart sams back on. I am pretty sure it was seated properly though, just because i kept having to reseat it due to the area above the valve not seating right and it taking a few tries of inflating and deflating to get it

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-02-02 Thread Jeremy Till
One alternative thing to check before you completely give up on the big bens: are the tires evenly seated all the way around the rim? Sometimes big, low pressure tires can have a bit of a wobble on the rim, caused by the bead being stuck down in the rim in parts. I wouldn't be surprised if

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-02-01 Thread DS
Thanks for all the feedback, especially the detailed report from Hugh. I went out again today on a 27 mile all pavement ride with them pumped to about 40 psi (front and rear), still didn't feel comfortable with them, especially on the long fast twisty descents. Maybe its psychological (from

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-31 Thread Marc Irwin
I've been using 50-622 Big Ben's on my Hunq and have nothing but praise for them. I'm using 40-60 lbs of pressure depending on the surface and 27mm Rhyno Lite rims. Marc On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 3:31:06 PM UTC-5, DS wrote: For me, really it's only been on these big bens. 2.1 smart

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-31 Thread Tim Gavin
I haven't tried Big Bens yet, but I run similar pressure on my 2.1 (55 mm) MK2 tires. They make a little noise and flex a bit in fast turns, but they never slide out on me. I've learned from riding my fat bike that soft, noisy tires can be ok (7-8 psi 4.5 studded tires). Of course, there's a

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-31 Thread Hugh Smitham
David, I've got some more feedback since I've been running em through the paces. Just did a mixed terrain ride up to Mount Lowe Trail Camp, about 50 miles nearly 6000' elevation. About 70% was on pavement and 30% dirt rail trail with some technical sections with fist sized rocks, gravel sand.

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-31 Thread Robert F. Harrison
That's my setup on the Hunq as well. I find I'm most comfortable at around 45 on our roads here in Honolulu. I'll be honest though, I don't pay much attention, especially when I'm just riding in town. I generally pump 'em up to 55 and forget to do anything about it till they are noticeably soft.

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread Hugh Smitham
I concur with Shoji, that's been my experience thus far. A great rolling tire nonetheless. Cheers, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Shoji Takahashi

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi DS, I have 26 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. I find the cornering to-be squirrely on roads if the tire pressure is too low (and cornering speeds are somewhat high). Easily resolved by raising the pressure a bit. If you're going on a mixed terrain ride, I'd say pump 'em up a little more. Shoji

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread David Stein
Shoji and Hugh - what psi do you run at typically? understood that weigh of rider plus racks and bags and stuff can play into that. Thanks for the feedback though. Taking it out this weekend on an all pavement ride and will run at higher psi and be cautious on downhill turns. I also lowered my

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread David Stein
For me, really it's only been on these big bens. 2.1 smart sams and other various 40mm + tires have all seemed fine on pavement and cornering even at mid-thirties psi. Though it's only been 2 rides in on the big bens and I'm obviously way overthinking this in between rides ;) Sent from my

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Bronson
Solid advice from Shoji and I think applicable to many tires, not just the Big Bens. My LoupLoups get a bit squirrely on high speed descending turns when pressure gets below 55 or so. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi DS, I have 26 Big Bens on

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
This is a bit of a quandary for me. I like high-volume (40mm+) tires as they provide a smoother ride at low pressure. But that low pressure in turn makes cornering unpleasant (at least for me). I dislike that squishy transition feeling that happens with low pressure at high speed turns. The

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hey DS, IIRC, I ran mine ~20-35 psi. I'm about 155#, bike weighs ???, racks+bags+stuff ???, sometimes kid on a Burley Piccolo (whose weight keeps going higher) ... and the weight distribution changes for all those set ups. TBH: I just pinch 'em now to make sure there seems to-be enough. There

[RBW] RE: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-26 Thread hsmitham
DS, I mounted 26 x 2.15 Big Ben's on DT Swiss XR 425 hoops that measure 23 mm outside diameter. I inflated them to approximately 35 psi and calipered them at 53 mm. I rode them today on mixed terrain, road with some corning and single track. They handled really well and seemed to roll fairly

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread hsmitham
DS, Really can't give any feedback as I'm in the same boat. I just mounted some BB'S on my Atlantis. My first ride will be this weekend. Looking forward to others feedback. Hope your okay. Poor cornering would have me freaked out. Cheers, ~Hugh Los Angeles, CA n Sunday, January 25, 2015

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread Kurt Manley
I have Big Apples which are pretty similar and they corner great. Do you have them mounted on rims that are wide enough? I have had issues with stability when I mounted too wide of a tire on a narrow rim. Sheldon has a chart that is pretty good for rim width and tire size compatibility. On

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread comveo
Hey there, Just thought I'd share. I have 26 x 2.15 BB's on a pair of Velocity NoBS(same outer width as Atlas @ 25.4mm) rims on an old rigid Hardrock, and 700 x 2.15 BB's on Velocity Cliffhangers(~28mm wide) on my Hunqapillar. I really like these tires. Although not exactly the same rim setup

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread David Stein
The rivbike site doesn't seem to say anything about rim widths. And I'm too lazy to check my own right now. Are all the velocity wheelset rims one standard rim width? or can it vary? On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:02 PM, drew beckmeyer drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote: i have 700x50 big apples on dyad

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread Tony DeFilippo
To-narrow rims could definitely be part of it. I found BA's to be fairly rolly below 30PSI on the old stock rims of my '93 MB-5. I also relate to the post-crash 'oversensitivity/analysis' on everything bike related... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread David Stein
Good point on the rims. I'll have to measure, but they're the stock wheelset rims (aeroheat) that came w/ the hunqapillar outfitted w/ Smart Sam 2.1's, so I assume if they're wide enough for the smart sams they're wide enough for the 2.15 big bens. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Kurt Manley

Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread James Warren
Handling has made me suspicious ofJack Browns mounted on skinny road rims. Wider road rims with same Jack Browns had me feeling confident. So far, Big Bens on Atlas rims have been very good for me over a lot of dirt miles on my Hunqapillar. I'll do another dirt ride today and post if anything

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread 'Jack' via RBW Owners Bunch
I had 50 X 700 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar and did not notice any handling problems. I switched to the 40mm Little Big Bens to gain some fender clearance. They have the same tread design as the regular BB and they also perform very well. However, I ride mostly in flat country and haven't done

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-25 Thread drew beckmeyer
i have 700x50 big apples on dyad rims. i think the dyad and aeroheat are the same width. no problems with the tires yet, and they are riv approved. that being said, the chart on sheldon brown seems to indicate that they are too large for the dyad rim width. the chart on the schwalbe site says