[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
Wow. Just wow. I rode a loop with downhill single track after a hearty 8 mile climb in poser SS mode in one of my future middle gears on the QB: 32-17. I started off just figuring I'll do my usual 10 mile connector route to Woodland Park and back, but felt great so headed up Rampart to the top

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-02 Thread Patrick Moore
To paraphrase Saint Sheldon: Shifting is a pernicious habit.* Your ride description makes me want to resurrect a ss off roader. *Originally: Coasting is a pernicious habit. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Wow. Just wow. I rode a loop with downhill

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-02 Thread cyclotourist
Ahhh... blush... I have been trying to ride my QB a lot more recently. Even on rides I could benefit from multiple gears on. I still shift it plenty between the 16 18 cogs, and occasionally between the 40 and 32 chainwheels, but hardly ever mess with the 22T freewheel. If I really start putting

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! I'm sorry, Doug.Thank you, for the great details! I'll write Surly and WI and ask what chains work with their stuff and report back. How is the SX3 working for you? How much use, on what type of roads/trails? With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:02:18 PM UTC-6, D.L.

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
Doug, White Industries said 8 speed is their recommended, but 9 works fine also, and 1/8 works if I'm confident in my chain line. I'm curious, though, did you try WI Eno freewheel with a 9-speed and it didn't work? Surly apparently doesn't answer phones, but I've an email into them. With

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-01 Thread Coconutbill
Congrats, Deacon! that's one of my favourite looking bikes out there. Curious, are you going with your old Albatross bars ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
No, I'll be trying the noodles that come with it and see how I like them for the type of riding I do, and if not going with Albastache. It's a 66 cm, so the fit is nearly identical on paper to my Hunqapillar, with identical stand over height and TT length, so I've got a good reference for how

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
After email Grant and talking with Mark and Kevin at Rivendell today I've decided on a more conservative approach to fixed gear: -- Get used to the bike and its pedal clearance with SS. -- Try fixed after a while, once I know pedal clearance will work where I'm riding. Basic message from both

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-01 Thread Patrick Moore
That sounds a very reasonable approach to me, given the QB's lower bb. Note that if you decide you like fixed off road, nice mtbs from the immediately pre suspension era are still relatively available and cheap, and with an ENO hub'd wheel and some 60 mm tires, you'd be all set. One of the nicest

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
I've been riding various short rides and their hills in poser ss mode that are shorter than many of the hills I ride on trails (that are still snow locked, so inaccessible), so they are a good analog for at least benchmarking where I am at the moment. My test gear is 46.8 (36-21) and I'm

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-05-01 Thread Deacon Patrick
For comparison, my low gear on my Hunqapillar is 19.5, though I now have an 18.4 low since switching to a 9-speed cassette (but I'll likely not use that much -- I switched cassette to lower the range of the middle ring, a conversion which worked spectacularly). But I load the Hunqapillar down

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread IanA
Congratulations on the QB acquisition! Looking forward to hearing all about it when it arrives. IanA. On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:31:19 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I’ve pulled the trigger on a beautiful silver Quickbeam, so Lord willing and the creek don’t rise it should be here in a

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Pondero
Deacon, congrats on the new bike! It is pleasing to think about another able to experience Quickbeam joy. It's just a hunch, but my guess is that you'll enjoy the fixed gear experiement. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Philip Williamson
Yes! Congratulations! I heartily recommend the the Surly dingle cog. I don't know if you have lockring threading on your rear hub, but I've used the rotafix method for years on my stock QB free/free wheels. If that sounds iffy, don't do it. Avoid cheap cogs; I've been happy with Surly, Dura-Ace

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Philip Williamson
Well dang! I did read that, many years ago. Interesting. Has anyone here done that? It seems like it ups the fussiness factor by 4 or 5. Now I want to do it! Honey, yes these Herse cranks, White freewheels and stainless chain cost a lot NOW, but they'll last forever! Plus I need a grinding

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, all! I'm excited to have a go-fast bike and looking forward to how both bikes will inform my riding for the other. It comes with the stock 18t Shimano freewheel and a new White Industries 17t freewheel. The flip-flop hub is freewheel on both sides, built on a 36 spoke Phil hub (I like

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
On my simpleone I run 40x18 for general loaded commuting. If I were riding further and on more dirt I'd run a slightly lower gear. For tires I run marathon supremes with fenders, but for dirt I'd run either clement xplors or rock n roads if they fit, which I have seen fit on another simpleone.

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Rotafixing: http://204.73.203.34/fisso/eng/schpignone.htm That looks like a great method since I won't be skid stopping (I have brakes, after all). Thanks, Philip! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Philip Williamson
Ha! I just grabbed that link for you! I've used the rotafix method to remove a fixed cog that broke a shop's chainwhip, too. If you do install a cog this way, just put it on tight, don't go really tight or infinitely tight. I tried a BB ring as a jam nut, and it didn't work, but I've heard it

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Do you find this true of SS and fixed, or just fixed (due to wheel inertia pushing you along)? With abandon, Patrick Also, I've found that a single drivetrain allows a higher comfortable gear than simply not shifting a derailleur'd bike. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Eric Norris
In my experience, it's partly because you're stuck with that one gear. Like it or lump it. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Do you find this true of SS and fixed, or just fixed

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Doug Litchfield
Hello Patrick, Wishing many happy miles on your new ride. Were it I, I would go with a lower tooth count on the fixed side, with slightly higher on the free side. To me it feels easier to push a higher gear fixed. And use the freewheel side for the rough stuff or the spent ride out/home! In my

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks for the details, Dave. I presume that's supposed to be 32/40 in the front? Can an 8-speed chain be run on the Dingle Cog and Dos Enos happily? With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:28:22 PM UTC-6, D.L. wrote: Hello Patrick, Wishing many happy miles on your new ride.

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread Doug Litchfield
? Dave's not here. Au contrair mon ami! 42 it was. The SRAM 8 sp. chain works okay. I recall, somewhere on the interwebs, a blogger saying they used 1/8th inch chain with the Dingle, I *seriously* doubt that would work. I stuck with the 9sp chain. No worries. Pulled the WI freewheel and

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-30 Thread cyclotourist
White's are louder than Shimano, but not overly so. I don't notice it unless I'm consciously looking for the noise. The chain on a single speed bouncing around make a lot more annoying noise IMHO. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-29 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Happy almost-new-bike day, Patrick. RE: Gearing, AASHTA: http://sheldonbrown.com/chain-life.html TL;DR-- go even/even teeth. But don't worry about it too much, either. If you're riding fixed, you may want to calculate skid patches. (You're riding SS or fixed for the trail?) Happy riding, shoji

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Trail: definitely SS. Dirt road, I will likely play with fixed. Dos Enos free hubs by White Industries look intriguing. On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:52:43 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Happy almost-new-bike day, Patrick. RE: Gearing, AASHTA: http://sheldonbrown.com/chain-life.html

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-29 Thread Mike Williams
Ive got a QB and Ive never known about the even/ even gearing. Hmmm. My gearing is 38/17 ( good for SF hills) for road and 32/19 fo dirt, couldnt be happier, Im also lucky enough to have skinny-ish rims that allow me to run BG RnRs. Hope this helps Patrick, youre gonna love it! -Mike

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-29 Thread M D Smith
On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:59:07 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Trail: definitely SS. Dirt road, I will likely play with fixed. Dos Enos free hubs by White Industries look intriguing. To which I reply: Patrick- Congrats on the forthcoming new steed! I am very interested in hearing

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-29 Thread djbardwil
Congratulations on the new Quickbeam. Some folks told me when I bought mine in February that it might become my favorite ride and it certainly has become that. My gearing is for (mostly) flat roads with an occasional hill and I settled on a 46t ring and an 18t White Industries freewheel

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tire and Gearing Recommendations

2014-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, all! I'm excited. DJ: Your description is exactly the poser ss I tested out today, and it went well enough. I may settle on 28/36 front rings with 18/20 rear. But I will tray the default setup first to learn from a baseline. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:43:23 PM