Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

Another Choco-moose lover here. I had a set of Ortho bars from the first run that I sold off. I just couldn't keep them from slipping in the stem on trails - so much leverage! Switching over to a moose-style bar has been perfect for me - they ain't going anywhere! James On Tuesday, December

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

Minh, I love both. I have albatross on my more compact bike, but I sized up on my Platypus and got Billie's and it feels so spacious. People say there are more hand position options, but I realized I never change positions, but I do like to put stuff all over my handlebars so there is more space

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

i"m down to a single big bike and only ride albatross but have been very tempted by the billie. this discussion always reminds me of this t-shirt from blue lug. https://global.bluelug.com/blue-lug-nitto-handlebar-t-shirt-white.html On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:44:18 AM UTC-5 Paul M wrot

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

To: Chris K (I have no idea how to quote your question and reply) I tend to move around a lot on bars and it's no different with the Mothbars, I definitely see them as 3 position bars. I spend quite a lot of time up in the bends in front of the shifters, the width is about identical to my fav

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

I tend to move around a lot on bars and it's no different with the Mothbars, I definitely see them as 3 position bars. I spend quite a lot of time up in the bends in front of the shifters, the width is about identical to my favorite drop bar hood position. On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:35:33

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

Thanks to all for the great input on different bars and their applications. When I first tried Albatross bars on my Bleriot, I could not get comfortable with them. Fifteen years later the Albatross bars are my favorite. I use them on a 58cm LHT. I recently experienced shoulder pain when I tri

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

J, question about your mothbars - do you find yourself ever using other hand positions? Intrigued by this bar but it looks like holding on anywhere but the ends would be awkward with such a wide bar. On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 4:20:31 PM UTC-6 J wrote: > I've always had problems with swep

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

I switched to Choco bars in 2020 from Albatross bars. I have never regretted the switch, seems like I have extra hand room and added comfort. On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:51:07 PM UTC-4 David Pulsipher wrote: > Hi there, > > I've been using the Nitto Albatross now for over 13 years - and lov

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

I rode albatross on a couple different bikes over the years and I never really got on with them. I used the Terminal bar for a bit and I really liked that. Then the orthos came in stock and I bought them without thought of what I'd actually do with them. I've been running them on my Karate Mon

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

The Albatross is my favorite upright bar. I'm a fairly tall guy with fairly big hands and it really only has 1 1/2 hand positions for me but I love the feel of it. It's stiff enough for trails, upright enough to commute on, etc. They live on my older Toyo Atlantis. I do think the newer revisions

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

I'm a Billie Bar convert thanks to a kind list member and prefer them for the extra hand position in front of the brake levers. Yes they could look nicer with some extra rise, I'd prefer to look at a swooped up bar than a tall stem but that doesn't impact my ride only my gaze when looking at my

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

I've been riding Billie bars on my 90s Novara mtb for about two years and absolutely love them for all the reasons Eric mentioned. I have two critiques: I wish they had a little bit more rise and they just aren't quite as aesthetically appealing as Albatross bars, which just seem to have a smoo

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

My problem with a sweptback extending forward before coming back is that, yes, it offers a hand position in front of the stem similar to drops but the stems are so long to accommodate the sweepback that the forward position is way to far out to be really useful. On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

Anyone have experience with the Velo Orange Granola Bar? Looks really close to the family. https://velo-orange.com/products/granola-bar?_pos=1&_sid=492f7836c&_ss=r On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 5:20:12 PM UTC-6 David Pulsipher wrote: > That's a great recommendation re: Toscos - and with availab

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

That's a great recommendation re: Toscos - and with availability. Thank you! On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 4:24:19 PM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > I have both Tosco and Orthos, and they are both very very similar bars. > Orthos have gentler curves… and of course the clamp diameter… but that’

Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

I have both Tosco and Orthos, and they are both very very similar bars. Orthos have gentler curves… and of course the clamp diameter… but that’s about the only difference. Aside from stem use, you’re not going to see much difference in those two.On Aug 25, 2023, at 3:53 PM, 'Sean, PNW' via RBW Owne

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

I've found my sweet spot of swept back bars with the 54cm width range. I really like the fit of albatross, loscos, and chocomoose. I found toscos (and kind of bosco) to be too wide and somewhat bothersome to my shoulder and neck issues. I really like how tosco and ortho looks, but am personal

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

David - it looks like your bar ends are Silver2s? If so Riv has Silver shifter thumb mounts in stock - you could just move the shifters from the bar end pods to the thumb mounts. On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 5:41:09 PM

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Eric - when I put the Albatross and Billie on top of each other on Whatbars, they look almost identical in width, just with a little more grip area which in turn makes them slightly wider. I'm actually ok on grip area, just looking for more width in general.

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

Great looking LHT - wider bars will fit right in on that rig. You may want to consider a longer stem to avoid knee contact, also Orthos are not bar end shifter compatible so you'd need to switch the shifters to thumb mounts or something. -Dave On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 4:03:51 PM UTC-4 Dav

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

Man Eric - what an epistle! Truly you have given me some deep things to ponder. Right now I was thinking of putting them on my Surly Long Haul Trucker - it's a 62cm. I'm 6'4 (and full of muscles). https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch7Y77ruZob/?img_index=1 I ride 45 schwalbe marathons, but am up-sizin

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

https://whatbars.com/ On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 12:37:56 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote: > We have two bikes with Albatross bars, a 65cm Tosco on my Platypus, and > recently picked up an Ortho bar for another bike. I like the Albatross bars > on roadish bikes and wider bars like the Orthos and Tosco

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

David: Good point on the 65cm Toscos, forgot about those! Other monster swept back bars: the Albacore bar from Hope has on offer, the Golden Pliers x Sim Works x Nitto Ramble Bar

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

We have two bikes with Albatross bars, a 65cm Tosco on my Platypus, and recently picked up an Ortho bar for another bike. I like the Albatross bars on roadish bikes and wider bars like the Orthos and Toscos on bikes with wider tires that see more dirt. The 69cm Orthos are significantly wider t