Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-08-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
Clearly I'm a beast beyond anything the cycling world has ever seen. Grin. Actually, I've no idea. This latest chain all I did was size it and attach it with the quick links, so no links were loosened in the process. Both chains that broke were KMC, neither was single speed. With abandon, Patri

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-08-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/19/2014 04:36 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Popped another chain on the Quickbeam cranking up a steep grade. Recognized the sound this time so no blood! Broke my chain tool, but only after I'd removed the offending link. Fortunately I only needed low gear for the rest of the ride, so reassemb

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-08-19 Thread Deacon Patrick
Popped another chain on the Quickbeam cranking up a steep grade. Recognized the sound this time so no blood! Broke my chain tool, but only after I'd removed the offending link. Fortunately I only needed low gear for the rest of the ride, so reassembled with the quick links and rode on. I'm tryin

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-16 Thread Jim Bronson
Jeff, That's good to know, because I just ordered 3 KMC chains for my single bikes based on my good experiences with the tandem using the KMC chain. Which model are you using? I'm just using the basic KMC K9. I have also seen the K9.99 and the K9 SL. I would probably not use the SL because th

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-16 Thread Ron Mc
dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not a bike mechanic - sorry, wrong metaphor. On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:21:31 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I'll be interested to hear if chains you use for ss last fewer miles than > your chains on derailleur bikes. I get only 2K miles; stretching from all > t

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-16 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll be interested to hear if chains you use for ss last fewer miles than your chains on derailleur bikes. I get only 2K miles; stretching from all that high torque hill climbing? (Visions of chain elongating like rubber bands under tremendous torque.) Patrick Moore, who knows that "stretch" is on

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-16 Thread Jeff Ong
I'm a big guy and a masher, but I've broken a lot of chains -- maybe 8 or 9 times in the last several years. Almost all of the broken chains were SRAM chains -- switched all those bikes to KMC and nothing since then. The one exception is a Campy 10 speed chain I snapped going downhill, weirdly.

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
I. S t r e t c h. Steel. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:16:41 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote: > > > Hey guys - Chains don't stretch. They wear. > > Matt > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" grou

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread Chris Chen
Well, the pins wear, so the chain... elongates? Stretch is more to the point I suppose. cc On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:16 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hey guys - Chains don't stretch. They wear. > > Matt > > -- > You received this mess

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey guys - Chains don't stretch. They wear. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread Jim Bronson
I've had several chains break that weren't stretched. I have the Park tool thingy that checks for stretch. I attributed it to my heavy weight of 250+, and maybe running less oil in the past than i do now. With the low cost of 9 speed chains i just replace them every 3-4 months now (since i picke

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Patrick, Once you've got the right length set for the bike, it's easy to cut a new chain to size. Just hang 'em side by side. The old one (that was the right length) will be a little longer due to stretch, but you should be able to figure out where to cut the new chain. Watch those toes! Sho

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Jim. That makes sense. In my case, I put the chain on new when I got the QB in Mid May, and I doubt the chain has stretched too much in the ensuing two months. I will watch that though. I did visually attempt to make the pin I pushed in with the chain tool match the others exactly. Wit

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I've only had one chain fail on me. Attributed it to my sloth in monitoring. One of the tendancies I've noted is that on a simple drivetrain (fixed/SS) you tend to just blissfully humm along without worry - everything always works. Until it doesn't. On the chain that failed - https://www.fl

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Brilliant. Obvious. And I was too stupid to see it before stubbing my toe! Grin. Thanks! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 6:22:09 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > You can add in segments using extra master links > > On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 6:46:38 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread Ron Mc
You can add in segments using extra master links On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 6:46:38 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > I use the master link. It's 8-speed chain. Of course, being a single speed > chain, I shortened it. I do not recall if I shortened it too much and > presume I did as part of my

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
I use the master link. It's 8-speed chain. Of course, being a single speed chain, I shortened it. I do not recall if I shortened it too much and presume I did as part of my learning curve and so added length back in. No doubt that is where the error occurred, and if so, what makes 1/8 chain att

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-14 Thread Philip Williamson
Did you reconnect the chain with a master link, or a chain tool? I learned the hard way that you need to use the link on a nine speed chain. The tolerances are too tight to just smash a pin back in with the tool. Everybody here knew that already... Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
@ Ron: Ha! There are a few places in which I can take solace in my failure to fail. Grin. @ Bob Barr: They are way past warrantee. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this gro

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-14 Thread Ron Mc
hey Deac, at least you don't screw up every time you post. On Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:56:24 PM UTC-5, Robert Barr wrote: > > That foot looks well used even before the incident. > > > > On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Liesl > > wrote: > >> Patrick, I'm so glad it wasn't worse on your toe!!!

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Robert Barr
That foot looks well used even before the incident. On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Liesl wrote: > Patrick, I'm so glad it wasn't worse on your toe!!! Perhaps your toe and > my finger should chat! -RCW > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RB

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Liesl
Patrick, I'm so glad it wasn't worse on your toe!!! Perhaps your toe and my finger should chat! -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-o

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread ted
Ouch. Sorry abt the toe. As others point out, standard chains should be more than strong enough for any of us. I think the only reason to use 1/8in chain is so you can also go with 1/8in cog and chainring. The added surface area should make em last longer, and I like the look. No easy changing o

Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
If you removed links you had to rejoin the chain and it is probable that when ypu did so you screwed up. Deacon Patrick wrote: >Good to hear. All I did with this chain was remove links to the right >length, but I may have needed to add a link back in due to learning >curve. >So, no doubt user

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Chain repaired and on the Quickbeam. We'll see if I did a better job this time. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:59:51 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Good to hear. All I did with this chain was remove links to the right > length, but I may have needed to add a link back in

[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Deacon Patrick
Good to hear. All I did with this chain was remove links to the right length, but I may have needed to add a link back in due to learning curve. So, no doubt user error. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group