Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

If you install it correctly, you should be done, but checking it occasionally with a torque wrench is still a good idea. Grease - I grease the spindle but do not grease the threads - grease on the threads can cause you to excessively torque the joint. The goal of a torqued joint is to elastic

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Grease. Didn't Jan just discuss this in typically thorough fashion > somewhere? Per him, the grease is needed for a good fit. > > Also I've read --Jobst? -- that you torque it properly, with grease, and > leave it alone foreve

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

That's what I had in mind. Patrick Moore iPhone > On May 27, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Chris Chen wrote: > > There's a pretty good discussion on this post: > http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/to-grease-or-not-to-grease/ > > >> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:33 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

Grease. Didn't Jan just discuss this in typically thorough fashion somewhere? Per him, the grease is needed for a good fit. Also I've read --Jobst? -- that you torque it properly, with grease, and leave it alone forever (unless you need to remove it, of course) since repeated tightening will e

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

of course, my Campy crank has 10mm hex sockets. Every other crankset around my house, though, has either 14mm Stronglight or 15mm Sugino Mighty hex head bolts. Park Tool CCW5 is a combo 8mm hex and 14mm socket, but it's not nearly as packable as a peanut butter wrench. On Tuesday, May 27,

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

There's a pretty good discussion on this post: http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/to-grease-or-not-to-grease/ On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:33 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > My Sugino non-drive side crank arm came loose also. I've had to

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

My Sugino non-drive side crank arm came loose also. I've had to re-torque it several times since (approx. 5,000 miles) and will need to replace it when I run out of spindle real estate (i.e. soon). Here's a question for the group: When you install a crank arm do you put a little grease on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

I don't know the thread, it should be easy to find on the Park website, but a 15mm crankbolt will thread right in.They should work better, and able to take more torque than the allen head bolts. Good luck. Scott On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: > Most cranks I have ever

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

Most cranks I have ever used/seen have an 8mm or 10mm hex wrench. Are these 15mm 6 point bolts compatible? What is the thread size? On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM, john muhl wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: > >> What is a peanut butter wrench? >> > > http://www.co

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: > What is a peanut butter wrench? > http://www.compasscycle.com/cranks_wrench.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

What is a peanut butter wrench? On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Ron Mc wrote: > If you have tapers well-matched - new crank is good - and sufficiently > high initial torque (300-350 in-lbs) it shouldn't come loose. After you > remove them, and especially if you move them, then you need to che

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

that was scuff the old washers - sneaky spell-correct On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:31:31 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > If you have tapers well-matched - new crank is good - and sufficiently > high initial torque (300-350 in-lbs) it shouldn't come loose. After you > remove them, and especially if yo

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

If you have tapers well-matched - new crank is good - and sufficiently high initial torque (300-350 in-lbs) it shouldn't come loose. After you remove them, and especially if you move them, then you need to check torque regularly. A good idea is to replace washers, or at least stuff the old on

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

> > When torqued properly, how long can one expect cranks to stay put? > A couple years? More? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-b

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

Wow that's excellent, many thanks Next time I will torque it correctly. Although I must note it was originally installed by a LBS, who's work I am usually pleased with... On Monday, May 26, 2014, IanA wrote: > It might still be ok - worth torquing it down and trying it. If it is > shot, th

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

Yes thank you, my family member(s) arrived faster than I expected, so that was good. We did have to remove the fenders and rack along with both wheels and loosen the quill to get the bike in the trunk, but it's a small price to pay to get picked up from a long way from home. They also took me bac

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

It might still be ok - worth torquing it down and trying it. If it is shot, the Sugino XD crank arms are sold individually for example: http://www.jensonusa.com/Sugino-XD-Crank-Arm IanA On Monday, May 26, 2014 7:24:29 AM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: > > In that case mine is probably ruined then -

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

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Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

I'll have to double check mine for hairline cracks... Seems OK though. I got mine tightened up after only about 5 miles of riding it loose. So far so good. Thanks for the explanation! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To uns

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

Ron, that is a good point. I did have a White Industries crank that wouldn't stay tight. It took me a week to figure out there was a hairline crack in it, The good people at White sent me a new one even though it was out of warranty. Great customer service. On Monday, May 26, 2014 8:20:58 AM

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

In that case mine is probably ruined then - I rode it at least 25 miles continually stopping and tightening it. I didn't really have a choice though, I was in the middle of nowhere and needed to limp it back to some semblance of civilization where I had enough cell phone signal to call for help.

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

it may be cracked, which is another consequence/symptom of loose. On Monday, May 26, 2014 6:30:32 AM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote: > > As a crank arm loosens off its tapered steel bottom bracket axle, the > wiggle room

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

As a crank arm loosens off its tapered steel bottom bracket axle, the wiggle room allows the square taper hole to become misshapen. This happens over very little time as the crank arm is made of softer aluminum that the harder steel bottom bracket spindle. Depending on how long you have ridden

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

Hard luck for sure on your brevet. So oddly enough I had a lose non-drive side crank arm this week commuting as well. I was really pushing hard on my single speed XO-3 and noticed a huge oscillation in my left foot. I limped the final 3 miles hand tightening the hex bolt headed crank bolt (no

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/torque-specifications-and-concepts On Sunday, May 25, 2014 5:33:04 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: > > This link to Jan Heine's blog is informative. I would try this method > before giving up on the crank. > http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/to-grease-o

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

This link to Jan Heine's blog is informative. I would try this method before giving up on the crank. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/to-grease-or-not-to-grease/ As an aside, I had a Sugino GP come loose on me a couple of times. I torqued it down properly and it's been perfect ever s

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

Jim very sorry to hear of your mechanical on a long Brevet. I had a similar issues with a Sugino crank and Shimano square taper bb combo, although not as severe as yours but I did have to regularly tighten the non drive crank to the where I got fed up and just swapped out the whole set up for

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

You don't need strength of arms, not does that help. You need leverage ! And the longer the lever, the better . I use a long Sears torque wrench only because I already have one, but if I did not I'd get the longest socket wrench I could find, and attach the 8mm socket and use that. I use abo

Re: [RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

A relative is driving 4 hours to rescue me. On May 25, 2014 2:57 PM, "Michael" wrote: > Sorry you had to stop. You must be heartbroken. >> > But at least it wasn't the engine's fault. > > What are your plans for getting back home? I don't think Rando clubs offer > support. Is that right? > >> >>

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

You don't need strength of arms, not does that help. You need leverage ! And the longer the lever, the better . I use a long Sear torque wrench because I have one, but if I did not I'd get the longest socket wrench I could find, and attach the 8mm socket and use that. I use about 30 ft-lbs o

[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

> > Sorry you had to stop. You must be heartbroken. > But at least it wasn't the engine's fault. What are your plans for getting back home? I don't think Rando clubs offer support. Is that right? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners