Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-10 Thread Mitchell Gass
At 11:05 AM 10/9/2012, Matthew J wrote: Too small for me as well, but very nice. BG did in fact work with Eisentraut. Not sure when he went off on his own. According to http://velospace.org/node/25288 : "The Limited was conceived as a lower-cost, more complete alternative to the Eisentraut

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-10 Thread Joe Bernard
"To each his own" includes my opinion about how vintage lightweights should be approached. It's a personal preference on my part, not an edict. The topic as concerns this frame is muddy anyway: "Period" in this case includes some pretty "modern"-operation Shimano and Suntour bits. Just sayin.

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew J
> My experience is similar to yours, and I moved my 105 STI 8-speed parts over to the Bleriot when I built it up. To be clear, Campy SR on the Kellogg is friction only. That stuff came much later. Except for the couple of rides I have never used it. -- You received this message because yo

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-10 Thread islaysteve
Peter, Just chiming in to say that I'm with ya on the 105. My experience is similar to yours, and I moved my 105 STI 8-speed parts over to the Bleriot when I built it up. It does depend on why your bought/how you want to use your vintage frame. I can see the issues. At least putting modern

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew J
>Ah, well to each thier own. I had never had an issue with 105 when I started "for reals" riding in the late 80s so I usually just > upgraded to that whenever I got a bike with Campy stuff. Thank you for reminding me that I am also no racer and did not and do not > ride for "performance" but mo

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-10 Thread Peter Morgano
Ah, well to each thier own. I had never had an issue with 105 when I started "for reals" riding in the late 80s so I usually just upgraded to that whenever I got a bike with Campy stuff. Thank you for reminding me that I am also no racer and did not and do not ride for "performance" but more just t

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew J
> While the frame is beautiful I just could not see using 35 year old components just to keep it "original." I have owned many > racing frames from that time period and even the high end campy stuff is not as reliable as the entry level stuff you can find in > any LBS today. This is just IMO,

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-10 Thread Ryan
It is a beauty. I would make it a rider. Better braking and shifting with more modern components. Cranks look like they're either Victory or Triomphe. I bet they have a 130mm bcd which means the gearing may be kind of high for mere mortals especially in hilly terrain. I don't think it's hereti

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Aaron Thomas
I love the Romulus-esque blue. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:32:51 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > > This popped up on the CL in the SF North Bay. I'm glad it is too small > for me, as I would be trying to figure out how to rationalize another bike. > I don't think it's a screamingly great d

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm kinda purist about vintage lightweights. I think they should be kept in period shape, and owned by the folks into that sort of thing. I'm not one of those folks. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:02:24 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: > While the frame is beautiful I just co

Re: [RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Peter Morgano
While the frame is beautiful I just could not see using 35 year old components just to keep it "original." I have owned many racing frames from that time period and even the high end campy stuff is not as reliable as the entry level stuff you can find in any LBS today. This is just IMO, I have don

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread pb
On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:24:21 AM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: > > That thing is screaming for a touring double and a 225mm Technomic stem. >> > Hmmmn. My response is rather different -- that it is quietly asking for the respect it deserves. I'll admit that I would prefer to see Campy NR cr

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread lungimsam
> > That thing is screaming for a touring double and a 225mm Technomic stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LA-s5wMhNZYJ. To post

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread Matthew J
Too small for me as well, but very nice. BG did in fact work with Eisentraut. Not sure when he went off on his own. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 12:32:51 PM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > This popped up on the CL in the SF North Bay. I'm glad it is too small > for me, as I would be trying t

[RBW] Re: The Maker Who Taught the Makers

2012-10-09 Thread pb
The treatment of the stay ends and fork ends is in the later style of Bruce Gordon, making me wonder whether he might have built this particualr example. Cheers, Peter On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:32:51 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > This popped up on the CL in the SF North Bay.