[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-19 Thread Joe Bernard
"Large chainring" HA! I tried it once just cuz it's there. It's definitely there 😬 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-19 Thread Ash
This is a very nice Roadini build. Now I see why you are looking for black wheels! Would love to see the pictures when those wheels are on. My Atlantis is almost ready with all black components, except the headset, for which I have to take it to a shop. Have not had time. Q: Curious when do

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-19 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Thanks Joe, and the Roadini looks great!! It’s funny with those sunrace thumbies... the top 3 gears index for me at exactly two clicks each but after that it deteriorates and I’ve found for downshifts I’ll often just pull the lever and overshoot by a click or two or three so I could upshift in

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-19 Thread Joe Bernard
Brian, here's the Roadini pics. I added them to the original thread, too. https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5CBYUsrzVVfGrYWA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-19 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, you gotta stay with friction with that shifter placement. The problem with those is they aren't really friction, it's kind of a "soft ratchety index" designed for IGH and front derailers. Riv doesn't spec them on Clems anymore, presumeably because people didn't like them much. Whatcha need

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-19 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
So I had a moment of clarity and it occurred to me while riding earlier today that with Riv's inboard shifter placement they've actually reversed the location of the left/right shifters to the opposite side so they may be oriented on the inside of the bar like that. I now recall there being me

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-18 Thread Lester Lammers
The Billie bars may be what you are looking for. I tries several bars, including Bosco and Aherne+MAP, on my MIT Atlantis. The Billie bars stayed. YMMV. On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:51:21 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: > > The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-17 Thread Joe Bernard
Brian, there's a thread around here somewhere called Orange Roadini with some pics. I finally finished it up last week, I'm going to get a ride tomorrow and take some new shots. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscri

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-17 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Hi Joe, Thanks, very generous and yes, I’m interested but unlikely to make the swap anytime soon (family/work and simply a matter not having the time to mess with my only complete and fully functioning bike at the moment) and this also seems to be exactly what The OP, Jim Bronson, might be lookI

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-17 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I just recently stumbled upon these.. anyone know if these SunXCD downtube shifters with 7/8sp indexed rear would install directly into the stock Clem shifter pods? https://store.somafab.com/su78spdosh.html Brian Cole Lawrenceville, NJ On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:51:21 PM UTC-4, Jim Br

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-15 Thread tc
Sorry, meant to address to Jim...not Alan. On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 1:17:55 PM UTC-4, tc wrote: > > Alan, the Ahearne+Map bar is very easy to like. It just feels right. > Hard to find people who've tried it and don't like it. I have the 610 > version on my Atlantis. > > It comes bac

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-15 Thread tc
Alan, the Ahearne+Map bar is very easy to like. It just feels right. Hard to find people who've tried it and don't like it. I have the 610 version on my Atlantis. It comes back far enough, but not as far back as Albatross or certainly Bosco. To give you an idea, I have mine mounted on a 11c

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-13 Thread Alan H
I'm probably the odd ball here, but like Zed, I realized a 52 was too big for me. I got a 45 and have it set up as a lite mountain bike with a Bullmoose bar (Nitto 901) and I absolutely love it. -Alan On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:51:21 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: > > The good news abou

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-12 Thread Collin A
I've had luck switching the Boscos out with the MAP bars on my 52h. The most useful/comfortable position on the Boscos were also the most inconvenient, I found. The MAPs makes me less upright, but I have more control in and out of the saddle, and feel like I am slightly more efficient in my ped

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-12 Thread Ash
However, I'll say that every time i try something OTHER than the boscos > (including and especially the billie), i realize how much I actually like > the bosco, and end up putting it back on. > I'm on the same boat! In last couple of months I have tried 4 other bars (some multiple times) an

Re: [RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-08 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Of course there is also Grant’s ballcock washer mod that achieves the same thing to create a stop/rest for your hands. I just happened to have old road levers laying around and gave them a try with great success. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-08 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Hi Jim, Before I traded away my Bosco bars one thing I did find that helped make them a little more useful was to tilt them back/down a bit more and install some old road brake hoods (with lever removed) at the outer curve, essentially creating more of a ramp/hood position in front of the shifte

Re: [RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-07 Thread Jim Bronson
Keith, Would you be willing to take another picture of the Billie with the stem mount lined up (about 2" forward from where it is in the pic)? On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 10:30 AM iamkeith wrote: > Just occurred to me that I had these all sitting out and handy. Here's a > photo showing a 58cm bosco

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-07 Thread lconley
I am in the process of converting my Clementine to the Jones bars with the 2.5 rise on a VO stem (currently Boscomoose). I think I will end up with silver shifters on the SunRace clamps. I love the way that the base on the SR clamps can be rotated. Laing Cocoa FL On Friday, September 7, 2018 a

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-07 Thread Garth
> > For bars take look at either a Jones bar or the Surly Open bar. The black only Surly has 53 degree sweep(25.4 stem), the silver/black Jones(31.8 stem) 45 degrees. Surly is 66cm wide and the Jones is 66 or 71. I suspect much of not liking friction shifting has to do with the odd

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-06 Thread Adam Leibow
I didn't read anyone else's replies so apologies if this is double information - if you can find an ultegra 8s bar end shifter, you can use this with a paul thumbie for an indexed 8speed thumb shifter setup. this being said, a while back I ordered an 8spd thumb shifter from rivbike.com - it wa

Re: [RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-06 Thread Jim Bronson
Jeffrey, A list member was very kind to sell me his set of 8 speed indexed SunRace thumbies for a very reasonable price. So it will be staying 8 for now. I don't really feel the need for more gears on this bike as others. I like to have a lot of gears on my brevet Rivendell so I can match effor

Re: [RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-06 Thread Jim Bronson
That is so true Joe! You don't get the clackety-clack when you are a little off like you did in the days of old. Back when I was rocking my Schwinn Collegiate, there was no question if the gear lever needed a little more trim or not. The feedback was highly audible. Surely I don't hear as well

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-06 Thread 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey Jim -- I don't know what RD came with the Clem but I can't imagine why you couldn't make it work for 9 speed just by working the limit screw (and/or B-Screw depending on how wide of a range you wanted). I'm an Index-Only guy myself so depending on budget I'd look to Shimano 9 for the shifte

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Part of the problem is the first edition Clems used those weird ratchety shifters that weren't really friction, weren't really Power Ratchets. Mostly they just sucked. Also, in my 56-years-old case, I just can't hear bad shifting like I used to. Friction is more work than when I was a youngster

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread iamkeith
I got a 59cm clem frame as soon as it was released and have had a similar love/frustration experience as yours ever since. One one hand, it's the bike that seems most appropriate most of the time and is what i most want to ride. But there have been a few nagging setup issues. After changing th

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread Lum Gim Fong
IME Friction works great withSilver Shifters, Microshift R10/Deore/SunXCD rear derailers with 7-speed cassette and 4.5mm spacer or 8 speed cassette, both on Shimano type 8/9/10 freehub body. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread Jim Bronson
I should have mentioned that, friction shifting seemed perfectly fine back in the day with my childhood 10 and 12 speeds in the 70s and 80s, but now it seems out of sync. I don't know if it's the additional 2 gears in the back or I'm just spoiled by years of indexed shifting. But anyway. On Wed,

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I also swapped out the Bosco bar for a Jones 2.5 riser loop and much prefer the angle and width of the Jones. My 65cm Clem H came stock with 55cm cromo Bosco and Tallux stem. I think I’d have been happier with the 58cm Boscomoose, but traded for a Jones before purchasing a new Boscomoose and n

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
I would think Choco or Albatross bars would work great on a Clem. Perhaps the combination of how high and far back the Boscos come could be why you're feeling they aren't wide enough? I would think a bar that got a little closer to the stem would feel better. Eamon -- You received this messa

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Have you considered a Jones H-Bar or the upcoming RBW Wavie bar? I recently bought the Jones 2.5 (inches of rise) loop bar and I'm very impressed with it. It offers many hand positions and it makes the steering much more confidence inspiring. Judging from the recent RBW catalog, the Wavie ba

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread Zed Martinez
I'm currently riding Billies on my Clem. I've run them on two, actually, I recently just swapped down to a 45cm Clem after admitting to myself the 52cm was too big, and I've tried the Billies on both. I like them best flipped upside down, but my wrists are still pretty fussy after a couple year

[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

2018-09-05 Thread sameness
I have some SunRace 8sp indexed thumbies just sitting around, err... shiftless. Drop me a PM if you are interested. > > Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto