Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

Also, see Matt Chester on 63xc.com and on his own blog, 5 meters of development (worth reading for other issues as well -- he's wordy and weird but has some interesting takes on off road riding, off road bikes, and off road bike setup. I personally find the Midge-+-Tektro hoods combo to be one of t

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

I was thinking "if you don't like angled hoods..." The Midge hoods are more angled than the WCs, at about 45 degrees, vs the WCs almost vertical. The tops on the Midges are narrower. I do have the narrower Woodchipper bars, so that's something to account for, re my opinion. Twentynineinches.com

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Is this necessarily true? I didn't use the Woodchipper very long at all, but they are wider than the Midge and seemed to have a steeper flare and less comfortable hoods -- it was some time ago, so I may not remember accurately. But the Midges are definitely worth a look, if not a try -- somewhere

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

I think if you don't like the 'Chippers, you won't like the Midges. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, February 7, 2013 4:03:29 PM UTC-8, jinxed wrote: > > OK...well the woodchippers are crossed off. I took a trip across town > today to visit a LBS that carries a bunch of Salsa / Surly good

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

OK...well the woodchippers are crossed off. I took a trip across town today to visit a LBS that carries a bunch of Salsa / Surly goodies and they had several bikes set up with the WC bars. I really liked the top position, and the hoods, but the drops were way outside my ideal. Too wide and too a

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

I'm with Esteban-- I love how the All-Rounder looks with Moustache bars. If you're comfortable on them now, I'd say keep 'em. Consider yourself lucky--a lot of people just don't find them comfortable. Woodchippers are cool bars for the right bike (something like a Salsa Fargo, Singular Gryp

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The Midges give me 4 hand positions including the very relaxing flats position. Patrick Moore iPhone On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Esteban wrote: > Now, that's a Rivendell. I wouldn't change a damn thing - totally dialed in. > Woodchippers would give you more drop, but if you find the Moustach

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

Now, that's a Rivendell. I wouldn't change a damn thing - totally dialed in. Woodchippers would give you more drop, but if you find the Moustache bars acceptable, they provide many more hand positions. With "drop bar MTB" bars, you're in the hooks almost exclusively. On Monday, February 4

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

> > Here's the bike with the fattys on > it. > > > That's a beautiful bike for sure! Nice metallic color. I'm a fan of Fizik Microtex bartape, usually over their gel pads and there are a couple of metallic colors that would look

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

Royal Blue Newbaum's with clear shellac will look great. You might consider putting 48cm Noodles on the bike. I have those on my LHT and love the way they feel, especially off road. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

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s.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever?? WOW!! GREAT feedback, and thank you for the compliments (all due Rivendell). @ Patrick - Yea, I tried Noodles off road too, and felt a bit the same. I think because they are a more "traditional" shape, I ra

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Nice bikes -- interesting setups. I'm surprised you get only 53 mm from a 60 mm Big Apple. Are they new? Mine have measured up to 65 mm on wide rims. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Philip Williamson > > > Woodchipper: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/6224830224/ > Midge: http://www.f

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

Fantastic bike! I agree with the vote for navy blue tape, and Brooks makes some scary-bright saddles you might consider, too. I have the dark green one, and I don't know that it's patinated my pants, particularly. I have cyclotourist's old narrow Woodchipper, and I like it. I think it should be

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

They're out pretty far, but not problematically. Nail the hood width and don't worry about the flare. They fit on Dirt Drops if you can get the 25.4... guess I should have kept mine! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5846158807/ On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM, jinxed wrote: > WOW!! GR

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

WOW!! GREAT feedback, and thank you for the compliments (all due Rivendell). @ Patrick - Yea, I tried Noodles off road too, and felt a bit the same. I think because they are a more "traditional" shape, I ran into the same width vs. reach issue. I know one reason the set up on the cross bike is

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Oh my! Helps to scroll down a bit. Never mind. I also see that the 42 cm bar is 59 cm wide at the hooks' ends, so there goes that, too. Patrick "it *is* a disappointing day" Moore On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Jim Mather wrote: > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE > wrote: > > >

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On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > Tho' perhaps the 25.4 is no longer made? > That's why it says this in the listing: "Item is discontinued and is no longer available" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

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Not per this: http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222370492/79/Salsa-Moto-Ace-Woodchipper.html Tho' perhaps the 25.4 is no longer made? I must try a 42 *if* I can find one in a 25.4. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Jim Mather wrote: > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM, René Sterental > wrot

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM, René Sterental wrote: > I can't seem to make sense of why you cannot use a Nitto Dirt Drop stem with > the Woodchiper bars... I don't have them, but it puzzles me... > The Woodchipper only comes with a 31.8 clamp diameter. -- You received this message because yo

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I can't seem to make sense of why you cannot use a Nitto Dirt Drop stem with the Woodchiper bars... I don't have them, but it puzzles me... On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:05 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Keith: interesting observations. I'm curious about the differences between > the Midge (which I've r

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Keith: interesting observations. I'm curious about the differences between the Midge (which I've recently found to the be ne plus ultra of flared, offroad drops) and the Woodchipper (which I disliked at first sight: wish I had one to compare to the Midege). My own objection to the Woodchipper was

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

I've got similar projects going on, but in the opposite direction. Like you, I've been preferring to ride my cross bike lately, on single track mostly. It has Woodchippers on it now, and I've uploaded some photos at the link below. Meanwhile, I'm about to take the moustache bars off of my (sligh

[RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

Other than maybe different colored tape wrap, I wouldn't change a thing... That baby is boss... BOSS!!! BB On Monday, February 4, 2013 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote: > > Over the last 5-6 months I have spent the majority of miles on the cross > bike. Did some racing, but mainly a bunch of mixe