[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

On Feb 4, 9:50 am, Peter Pesce wrote: > Can anything sum up the two shops better than the "soap swap"? > > "Grant gave me a bar of the pine tar soap he sells. I can't say I was > taken by the scent, reminiscent of a forest fire, though it's very > very effective and definitely manly.  I sent Gra

Re: [RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Speaking of Pineapple Bob and Jitensha—check out this recent story (in the comments) about a sticker that ended up on my new-to-me Ebisu . -nathan On Thu, Feb 3,

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Jitensha is a design studio. Hiroshi is somewhat legendary, as a designer, in the Japanese style of classic Frenchy cyclotouring and randonneuring bicycles and Italian-esque road machines. Its a fantastic place, but not a "bike shop." Been on Bancroft for 30 years, Grant hung out there when he wo

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

> I think Grant seems to favor the tried and true proven stuff > while VO seems to like to experiment with new versions using cheaper > Taiwanese mfgers VO experiments with manufacturers, true. But most of the VO branded components are highly derivative. Most VO racks, brakes, brake levers, cran

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Can anything sum up the two shops better than the "soap swap"? "Grant gave me a bar of the pine tar soap he sells. I can't say I was taken by the scent, reminiscent of a forest fire, though it's very very effective and definitely manly. I sent Grant a chunk of Savon de Marseille, an artisanal and

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Certainly both Riv and VO try to find their own niches in this small part of the cycling business, but I find a lot of commonality between the two. I think Grant seems to favor the tried and true proven stuff while VO seems to like to experiment with new versions using cheaper Taiwanese mfgers ~M

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

> Jitensha is actually pre-Rivendell, so if anything, Rivendell is a "Me > too Jitensha". :) > Grant wrote somewhere that he used to hang out at Jitensha, and that > was where he knew "Pineapple Bob" of the Bridgestone catalog fame. That is my understanding. The BOBs may have to chime in here, bu

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

> one observation... the world of steel bikes, Nitto, and non carbon > silver components is very small compared the bicycle world as a > whole I imagine the relatively small size of the steel bike world is why people tend to lump its practitioners together. There are big differences in the Riv a

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

I remember a friend telling me "you go in there and it looks like a bike museum - and you wonder what's for sale and what's an exhibit." On Feb 3, 7:34 pm, William wrote: > I vividly remember my first visit to Jitensha Studio in my freshman > year a Cal in 1987.  I'd never seen a shop like that,

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

one observation... the world of steel bikes, Nitto, and non carbon silver components is very small compared the bicycle world as a whole. I'm delighted that all 3 shops (and others) are able to survive. It would be a cold dark ( black and grey) world without all of them. ~Mike On Feb 3, 7:34 pm

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

I vividly remember my first visit to Jitensha Studio in my freshman year a Cal in 1987. I'd never seen a shop like that, and I can't say I've ever seen another like it. On Feb 3, 6:55 pm, benzzoy wrote: > On Feb 3, 1:08 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > Jitensha should not be included in a list of

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

On Feb 3, 1:08 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > Jitensha should not be included in a list of me too Riv companies. > > Jitensha has been around for quite some time, possibly longer than > Riv, though I am not certain on that. Jitensha is actually pre-Rivendell, so if anything, Rivendell is a "Me too Jit

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

> I had the pleasure of meeting Chris at the 2009 NAHBS.. he's exudes a > great bike vibe and attitude. Good guy and VO is a good company. I just do not see him as being a direct Riv competitor. GP and Chris believe in steel and are not so interested in racing. Otherwise, their niches are prett

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Hey, I'm thrilled that VO is in business... I think they provide a wide variety of great and useful bike frames, parts and products at reasonable prices. I own a Campagne handlebar bag, which I think is a quality bag. Regarding their bike frames, VO seems to have picked up where Kogswell left of

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Jitensha should not be included in a list of me too Riv companies. Jitensha has been around for quite some time, possibly longer than Riv, though I am not certain on that. It is a local bicycle store operated by a Japanese American that makes Japanese small shop bicycle parts available in the Uni

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Allen, I'm with you, i've been a Rivendell customer going back to 1999 but i hadn't bought anything since 2005 until 2010 building up my Hillborne. So all these new sources for what i considered Riv'ish but i guess others would use a more generic term, bike parts like Velo Orange, Jitensha, etc w

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Kindle addition of Taube's book = $9.99. Very compelling - I might take the plunge. On Feb 3, 9:35 am, Minh wrote: > http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2011/02/paleo-rambling.html > > Not too oft intersection of VO and Rivendell, it's about the diet > stuff so if you've signed off from that topic p

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

Interesting they are good friends. I could never put my finger on it, and certainly had nothing to substantiate, so even hesitate mentioning it as before now it was only ever a rumor the voices in my head argued over, but... VO always struck me as the Riv knock-off. East Coast vs. West Coast. Taiwa

[RBW] Re: VO/Rivendell Cross Blog Post

I found the comments about the soap altogether more interesting than the diet stuff. On Feb 3, 8:35 am, Minh wrote: > http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2011/02/paleo-rambling.html > > Not too oft intersection of VO and Rivendell, it's about the diet > stuff so if you've signed off from that topic p