I have a pretty limited bike budget, so when I bought my Sam last
summer, a $1000 Riv frame was already a stretch, but for a Riv it
seemed like a good buy, and then the idea of getting a lugged steel
frame hand made in the USA for $1250 was VERY compelling. (Ironically,
the double top tube and "ind
Just the other day I read on the Riv website that they are raising the
price of the Waterford Sam's to cover the cost. I believe it costs
more for them to have frames built from Waterford. Not that this
makes them any better, just that it costs more to have the same
product built in the U.S. Whe
And the key thing is how they are attentive if there is a flaw. They want you
to have a good experience with the bike.
-Original Message-
>From: Garth
>Sent: Jan 24, 2011 7:09 AM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Was Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis - now shi
"Well, I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something along
the lines of Toyo's fork curve being a home run while the curve done
by Taiwan is a solid double."
That quote was referencing the Bleriot fork it is from the comparison
to the Saluki in RR37. It is probably true of the SH too. Her
Following the Taiwan tact of this discussion, the issue of the
Hunqapillar build is yet more complicated. On the Riv site, after
describing the wonderous tubing used in its build, it's reported that
the fame is made in Taiwan under the direction of Toyo, with the fork
made by Toyo, the suppliers o
It doesn't matter what factory makes your Rivendell, period.
In truth, any of them can be near perfect, and any of them can have
flaws.
I have a frame from Waterford that was made with a mistake that needed
repair. I'm not here to denigrate them, rather to point out no one ...
absolutely no one
>From what I read somewhere (correct me if I'm wrong) this last line of
Sam's, including mine, ALL have Taiwanese forks, even the Waterfords.
Fame was made at Waterford, fork Taiwan. Whatever, I love it.
Now I've side tracked the subject from Atlantis to Sam & from Toyo to
Taiwan.
On Jan 23, 9:4
