On Jan 10, 4:45 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
Well this is the Riv Owners Group what better place to be snarky?
I say Snark on.. we aren't that thin skinned.
Kelly
Fai Mao wrote:
I
William,
Excellent post! And perfectly captures what many were trying to say.
Even myself, although went about it all wrong. It is the rider. And
as a rider of Rivendell, I fail miserably. Probably because at my
heart, am too much of a reverse snob. Wherein beautiful and
practical is nice.
I would be willing to bet that there are several in this group who
have ridden road and/or mountain race bikes who were quite good
at the sport. I have had a great deal of satisfaction on steel,
titanium
and carbon/ti road racing bikes. I can tell you one of my favorite
bikes was a Holdsworth
On Jan 10, 12:38 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I've found that if you follow Riv's sizing
guidelines and part suggestions, then the bike will tempt you to stop
and smell the roses - to ramble and amble and enjoy the scenery. This
is the case with my 650B Nobilette-built Protovelo.
There's a really fine line here. Which aspects are worth dwelling
upon and obsessing over and which aspects are to be discarded, freeing
your mind and your soul to just be happy and enjoy yourself? I'm
pretty certain Grant can't tell you. There are details of his frame
designs that he never
Well put guys! Very nice.
best,
JimP
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:34:02 -0800
Subject: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell
From: willh...@yahoo.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
On Jan 10, 12:38 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I've found that if you follow Riv's sizing
I have owned a rambouillet, a romulus, and, currently, a roadeo. I
made the mistake of selling my ram and when the roadeo came , I
jumped on the wagon. I just love the handling of my riv's. Actually,
the roadeo fits my riding very well, better than the ram. The rom was
a distant third, comparing
Guess that means I have never qualified, as have never been able to
pass another rider.
Strangely enough, been finding more and more that my Rivendell is the
most limited (and limiting) bike. Maybe it's time to move on.
Somebody is probably going to get a good deal on a built up Sam
Hillborne
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Subject: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell
From: ericpl...@aol.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Guess that means I have never qualified, as have never been able to
pass another rider.
Strangely enough, been finding more and more that my Rivendell is the
most limited
Hi, all!
@Eric Platt
Surely everyone has their own expectations / desires out of a bike.
So, in my ignorance of The World of Cycling, it certainly makes sense
to me that no one bike or style of bike is going to fulfill everyone's
riding dreams.
I'm really enjoying my Hillborne. Surely it
I bought Riv's floor model, 56 cm Waterford canti SH, last March and
rode it for six months. It had very good qualities as an all rounder
type of bike, but I found it -- built as Riv had built it -- rather
doggish in cruising and climbing modes, leaving out handling qualities
that I did not like
I haven't even begun to tap the potential of my Sam, and every time I
think I need a new bike I realize I could achieve pretty much what I
want with a wheel or cockpit change on the Sam. Of course, there are
limits to how much wrenching one is willing to do, and I could
certainly see preferring to
Interesting comment. Care to elaborate? (not a challenge, just
curious) :-)
On Jan 10, 8:52 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
Guess that means I have never qualified, as have never been able to
pass another rider.
Strangely enough, been finding more and more that my Rivendell is the
I think I know what he means but am very interested to let him make
his own comments.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:52 AM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
Guess that means I have never qualified, as have never been able to
pass another rider.
Strangely enough, been finding more and more that my
Stability.
Beyond frame design, I've found that if you follow Riv's sizing
guidelines and part suggestions, then the bike will tempt you to stop
and smell the roses - to ramble and amble and enjoy the scenery. This
is the case with my 650B Nobilette-built Protovelo.
As I have begun to discover,
Well, it's a combination of things.
First off - it's me. As a heavy rider (6' and about 225) am probably
too bulky to be on a Sam Hill bike. Should probably have gone for a
Bombadil instead. So any and all of my opinions need to be looked at
in that (not so) light.
My main complaint with the
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:38 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
Well, it's a combination of things.
The Fargo can take 2.4 [tires] without [fenders].
Nay, much, much more!! Mine has 65 mm actual (2.5) BAs with PB
fenders on it and room to spare.
Also, strange as it may seem, am in agreement
2010 model. Stock XT build from Salsa. Weight around 31 or 32
pounds.
Better cut this out, as this is now totally off-topic. The Sam
Hillborne, with a SON hub up front and Phil FW rear hub (Riv model?)
is lighter.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Jan 10, 6:28 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com
I do apprieciate all the imput. Many times I ask questions that I already
know the answer too. There is no real answer.
For me---
My AHH is the best riding bike bar none I've ever sat upon. It feels quick
and handles like a dream.
I'm 6'5 tall and 225lbs ... I find it climbs great out
My Rivendell bike combines beauty, practicality, durability, heritage,
quality without excess, adaptability, craft, innovation, affordability,
comfort, sweetness, strength, romance, individuality, experience, passion,
élan, esprit, soul...I'd better watch out for Bike Snob New York or his
I did a 100k ride on my Hilsen today. Currently it's sporting SKS
fenders, Schwalbe Marathons (35s) and MKS Sneaker Pedals. I used this
bike for so many different kinds of riding from fast(ish) road rides,
brevets, bike camping, gravel/dirt road rides, and even touring. It's
just a great bike.
Pictures prove happiness:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623539066043/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624437991369/
The stories go on. These bikes may just be bikes. But they are
Rivendell Bikes. Which make them something more.
-Manny
On Jan 9, 8:39 pm,
Along a similar line, here is a link to the Bridgestone '94 catalog
page How to Ride a Bike Forever
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/12.htm
On Jan 9, 10:42 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
From Tips for Happy Riding - the version which I'd scanned from a 2006
I agree... it's all of the above. The bikes fit right, permit larger
tires, seem very balanced riding.
The lug work and attention to detail make the whole package perfect.
I'm not sure about that elf thing though. I thought it was artesians.
~Mike~
On Jan 7, 6:15 pm, PATRICK MOORE
to follow his
design to the smallest nitpicking point. His frames are made for Rivendell Just
as he designed them.
best,
JimP
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:45:53 -0800
Subject: [RBW] Re: What Makes the Rivendell
From: willh...@yahoo.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
The magician never
The answer is not so much about any specific bike material decision.
The answer is their attention to detail.
Lots of companies care about details, but Rivendell cares about details that
serve a wider range of cycling interests.
(Do I owe Lance Armstrong money now?)
On Jan 8, 2011, at 9:43
Here's way you were reading from Douglas Brooks on Resolved vs
Resourceful bikes:
http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=resolvedmsgfrom=d...@mail.rochester.eduSortBy=MsgDate[d]
Courtesy of the bikelist.org archives...
Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ
On Jan 8, 1:54 pm, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:
The magician never shares his secrets
its a mystery that should never be put into exact words or it will
be diluted.
I think in the industry they call it brand mystique
it is what I love about Rivendell.
On Jan 7, 12:06 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
As a new owner and new
What makes a Rivendell?
Why the craftsmanship of the Elves and Dwarves of Middle Earth (who in
a secret pact have shared their legendary weapon-making technology for
greater purpose)... I mean duh... I thought that was obvious...
(Kelly, I wish I knew, but I certainly agree... nothing rides like
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