[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread Doug Peterson
If your riding style is more like an extension of hiking (mellow, stop and smell the sagebrush) as opposed to some version of motocross (blasting across the landscape), your unlikely to break a Riv even if you're on the high side on weight. Get enough tire and ride sensibly and no worries. dougP

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread Jim Bronson
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > I think that you have to take any manufacturer's weight limits into account > against the _way_ you ride. I've ridden with some stantial Clydsedales (as > in the mtb race definition) and most tend to strip freehubs/freewheels, bust > up whe

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread CycloFiend
on 2/21/09 7:01 PM, charlie at charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: > I think Riv might have lost some sales because of the emphasis on > fire road weight limits. It gets confusing when you read the info, at > least for me it was. I simply focused on the weight limit number and > got discouraged. Maybe

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread JimD
Here's another vote for JB Greens and A Homer Hilsen. I've found JB's to be more durable and get twice as many miles on them as I have with the Grand Bois. I weigh ~ 190 lbs I run the JB's at ~60 psi. They are reminiscent of tubulars for me. I like the JB's so much that I asked Grant to desi

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Doug Peterson wrote: > > At 10 mph, a decent dirt road is little different from a paved one, and > usually less traffic. Take a look at this link for typical fire roads in > Southern California. David Estes probably has the exact stats but I'm > guessing we pro

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread Doug Peterson
> The fire trails around here (I live kind of near Walnut Creek) are > roughly equivalent to dirt or gravel roads I've ridden in Minnesota, > British Columbia, Wisconsin, Oregon and other places that don't > immediately come to mind. They're just dirt roads, nothing extremely > technical, and I s

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread JoelMatthews
> The fire trails around here (I live kind of near Walnut Creek) are > roughly equivalent to dirt or gravel roads I've ridden in Minnesota, > British Columbia, Wisconsin, Oregon and other places that don't > immediately come to mind. They're just dirt roads, nothing extremely > technical, and I su

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread James Warren
Jim, From what you say, the AHH really sounds almost perfect. I doubt you would break it. If you can afford it, its probably worth the extra money compared to the cost of a Hillborne that you could probably set up right. Whenever I ride the AHH, I say, "this is the best bike." And other bikes

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread Anne Paulson
The fire trails around here (I live kind of near Walnut Creek) are roughly equivalent to dirt or gravel roads I've ridden in Minnesota, British Columbia, Wisconsin, Oregon and other places that don't immediately come to mind. They're just dirt roads, nothing extremely technical, and I suspect that

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread James Dinneen
rue that I do not do mega miles or ride fast.  I would do the AHH.  Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Shaun Meehan wrote: From: Shaun Meehan Subject: [RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 10:09 PM It's

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread JoelMatthews
> I think Riv might have lost some sales because of the emphasis on > fire road weight limits. It gets confusing when you read the info, at > least for me it was. I simply focused on the weight limit number and > got discouraged. Maybe a clarification on the site would be helpful to > other poten

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread BPustow
Thank you, you've just said what I've been thinking for quite sometime. Bill In a message dated 2/21/2009 10:01:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charles_v...@hotmail.com writes: It seems Rivendell is stuck on their buyers using their bikes on fire trails which in my area don't even exist, u

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread JoelMatthews
> Seems like I talked to someone a while back that mentioned (if) the > AHH was an American made (Waterford) one a heavier down tube could > more easily be substituted for a little extra beefiness. Maybe this > isn't the case as it might be considered custom. Speaking of Riv customs - sorry for t

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-22 Thread Todd Olsen
this looks like an innovative solution to "Fendering difficult bikes" See page 5 of this link to the latest Rivendell Reader. Todd Olsen AHH http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/75/original_RR41_web.pdf On Feb 21, 4:53 pm, Jim Bronson wrote: > I went out and did a 200K brevet on Presidents'

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread Jim Bronson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:59 PM, 42MuskhamSt wrote: > > Just wondering if a 60cm Hillborne would work? I seem to remember > reading that they had a 56cm set up for one of their taller riders and > because of the sloping top tube geometry, the fit worked. My gut reaction was oh hells no, but th

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread 42MuskhamSt
Just wondering if a 60cm Hillborne would work? I seem to remember reading that they had a 56cm set up for one of their taller riders and because of the sloping top tube geometry, the fit worked. The reasons I ask are because the Hillborne is shown as between the AHH and Atlantis in terms of fram

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread Anne Paulson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: > > The geometry on the AHH is more suited to my height and what I want to > do with the bike. With the shorter top tube on the Atlantis, the > flight deck would be a bit cramped for me. On the AHH 67, the TT is > 64.5, whereas on the Atlanti

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread charlie
Oh! almost forgot, get the crank length that you like/need. Sounds like you need long crank arms being that you are taller than the average rider. As an aside, I rode an old 90's steel mountain bike today that I recently streetified with albatross bars and solid fork. It has 175mm crank arms and t

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread Shaun Meehan
It's probably a requirement of their job to do it but I think Grant and the rest of the folks at Rivendell are pretty conservative when assigning weight limits to their bikes. I know form reading Scott Cutshall (aka: Large Fella on a Bike)'s blog that he was riding an Atlantis when he weighed in th

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread charlie
Seems like I talked to someone a while back that mentioned (if) the AHH was an American made (Waterford) one a heavier down tube could more easily be substituted for a little extra beefiness. Maybe this isn't the case as it might be considered custom. To me a simple substitution of tubing thicknes

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread Jim Bronson
I am interested in either the Jack Brown greens or continuing to use the Grand Bois on my proposed AHH. On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:18 PM, wrote: > I have Jack Brown's on the Quickbeam and they are very nice. > Bill > > In a message dated 2/21/2009 8:30:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jimcwar...

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread BPustow
I have Jack Brown's on the Quickbeam and they are very nice. Bill In a message dated 2/21/2009 8:30:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jimcwar...@earthlink.net writes: I use Jack Brown blues on mine, and I'm sure these are contributing to the bike's greatness. **A Good Credit Sc

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread Jim Bronson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > So what is the reason you'd prefer a Hilsen to an Atlantis? I hope > it's frame size, not weight. A person who weighs 235 is not going to > notice a pound difference in the weight of a bike frame! And people > who have weighed X + 20 but now

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread BPustow
In my opinion, you're fine. Homer is a heavy, sturdy bike - I have one. Your weight might be a problem on fire roads but should not be a concern on paved roads. Rivendell, as most companies, is concerned about liability issues - not any different than Conti recommending only a max of 90 ps

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread James Warren
I say get the AHH. It's the best production bike ever. I just got off of mine after a vigorous ride, and the smile is still on my face. For your purposes, I wouldn't worry about the weight thing. I think Rivendell's recommendations are a bit conservative. The bike comes in a good size for you,

[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell

2009-02-21 Thread Anne Paulson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: > > The thing is, I would really rather buy an off the shelf bike. But I > am 6'7" so my options are limited. So I got to thinking about the AHH > again. Last year I thought about the AHH and I called Riv and whoever > I talked to discourage