[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-22 Thread Montclair BobbyB
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Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I think Grant was the principal moving force behind the steel/quality/comfortable road bike that is pretty common today. Perhaps he was just leading at the crest of an already existing wave, but as someone who bought an XO-1 in 1993 ('92 model) and followed Bridgestone and then Rivendell from that

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I agree. Grant was among the first, and most visible proponents of real-world bikes. Arguably, some of Surly/Soma success is due to people reading what G was saying, and for whatever reason, buying a Riv-ish model from one of those brands instead of from RBW. Surly/Soma have talented and creativ

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread jpp
I dont think Grant is given his credit on this issue. Many large manufactures (trek, etc...) offer nice city bikes with plenty of rack mounts. Plus just look at all the bike at NAHBS, there is no way most of those bikes would look like they do if there was no Riv. Plus surly, soma and salsa

Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Lyle Bogart
"I see tons of people on steel bikes with the handlebars up high riding around Burlington, VT." Ah, that's probably thanks to the fine folks at the Old Spokes Home! Great bunch there! Cheers! lyle On 20 April 2013 18:20, Zack wrote: > I am obviously not plugged into the bike store world, but

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Zack
I am obviously not plugged into the bike store world, but I can say I see tons of people on steel bikes with the handlebars up high riding around Burlington, VT. It brings a smile to my face pretty much every time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread bwphoto
Jim- Your shop is an example of what we need more of if we are ever going to get more ordinary people on bikes. Specifically, you and a few others in the Twin Cities have been making great strides towards eliminating the intimidation factor that keeps the average person from venturing into a bi

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Ron Mc
San Antonio is in an urban revival, with the real estate of two large and historic downtown breweries recently developed into upscale condos, shopping centers and upscale restaurants (not quite black tie tacquerias, but close - snob appeal rules in SA). The city has already done and is continu

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread RJM
Where I live it is very race bike oriented, on the road or on the trail. I don't see too many people riding anything but race bikes dressed in full kit and I don't even think you can buy panniers. Basically Trek and Specialized rule it. Riv is my main bike shop now; I really dig the no shipping

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread ted
And here in the sf east bay it's easy to forget how lucky we are to be able to just pop over to RBW WHQ and test ride most any riv most any time we like. If I lived someplace else, I'm not sure what I'd be riding. We more ambasidors of the non racing options in more places. -- You received thi

Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Eric Platt
Plus, the Twin Cities has a history of bike shops that cater to non racers. Not as exclusively as Jim does, but they have been here. We seem to be unusual in that respect. On Apr 20, 2013 7:39 AM, "Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery" wrote: > Chris W: that's a good point. I sorta live in a bubble. Not

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread ted
And here in the sf east bay it's easy to forget how lucky we are to be able to just pop over to RBW WHQ and test ride most any riv most any time we like. If I lived someplace else, I'm not sure what I'd be riding. We more ambasidors of the non racing options in more places. -- You received thi

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Chris W: that's a good point. I sorta live in a bubble. Not only do I work in a shop where we deal with approximately zero actual racers, very few of my customers own or ride mass market "road bikes". Of course, in the twin cities, one can't miss the broad presence of Surly. -- You received th

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Matthew J
The Suntour 14-34 winner pro freewheel may have been marketed to mtb racers. Matched to a MaxiCar hub its proving to be a quite durable touring piece. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2013-04-19 at 19:16 -0700, sameness wrote: > As a huge SunTour fan, I do catch that ever-so-faint whiff of > marketing revisionism. My recollection of most of their technological > innovations and attendant high-end parts were, err... geared decidedly > towards racing, both on and off road.

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread sameness
As a huge SunTour fan, I do catch that ever-so-faint whiff of marketing revisionism. My recollection of most of their technological innovations and attendant high-end parts were, err... geared decidedly towards racing, both on and off road. When I think of their more emblematic offerings, I th

[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the "Riv-ish" bicycle marketplace

2013-04-20 Thread Christopher Wiggins
Jim, While in more "enlightened" bike markets this may be true; here in Indianapolis, we're just now starting to catch up. I've been swimming against the current for 4 years now. It's just this year that customers don't give me the "you've got 2 heads" look when I suggest something like a LH