This is an edited version of an email I recently sent Grant, I wanted to
post here cuz I think the magical Riv ride he designs into these frames is
slightly under discussed..like we all know it and love it, then talk about
other stuff like paint and parts. My comments are specifically about my
You hit it on the head, Joe. Thanks for the thread. With all of your experience
on a gazillion bikes, what do you think accounts for “the magical Riv ride he
designs into these frames”? What makes it happen?
> On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> This is an edited version of an
Oh I haven't the first clue how Grant does it. There's something going on
with the numbers and tubes that makes them ride like a Harley Softail on
the straights AND a Ducati Panigale in the turns. It's bonkers!
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 5:51:31 PM UTC-8 J J wrote:
> You hit it on the
Yeah...Grant has something going on there that first drew me with the X0-1
...which is like a sports car...and then there is something really plush
about the road bike and the A/R I have. Plush, but far from sluggish. I
don't know how he does it either , even though he's written about it a lot
My Monday ride to Olema from San Francisco confirmed the magic of the
Rivendell Ride over the 80 miles of mixed terrain and 9k in climbing. I’m
grateful to finally have one.
On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 6:50:47 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
> Yeah...Grant has something going on there that first dr
Grant's 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 had a 54mm trail with 25mm tires. The 2022
Roadini had a trail of around 58mm but with a 5mm lower BB. The Cheviot (I
can't find numbers for the Platypus) had a trail of 58mm with a 25mm tire
(but obviously few people would run 25mm tires on that bike), but even wit
I remember reading where Grant, or one of his long-term employees but I
think Grant, said on front end geometry handling there are a few numbers
they hold to but they don't discuss them outside the shop. Trail would be
an obvious one, but I've always thought it would be interesting to hear the
I built up a 2TT 62cm Appaloosa in February as my first Riv, and have
enjoyed it very much. The over riding impression is that I know that this
is a heavy bike (from lifting it onto my hitch rack), but it rides lively
and relatively light, and comfortable and stable. It is hard to wrap my
head
Joe,
You're absolutely right about the ride characteristics or that ineffable
"feel" of Rivendells. It only took a few minutes on my Sam to realize that
magic.
Thank you Grant!
Best,
Rich in ATL
On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 8:55:23 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com
wrote:
> I built up a 2T
Randy,
I'm curious, too, to get the group's take on your question as to weight vs.
ride quality, as I'm currently building a new 62 Atlantis F/F. I'm wanting to
do some dirt touring and bike packing on it. Hope I'm not in for a fat hog...
Scott
On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 06:55:28 AM
Scott,
I have never ridden an Atlantis, but would love to, and believe that you
will love it. Looking forward to hearing your impressions going forward.
Randy
On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 1:41:14 PM UTC-6 Scott wrote:
> Randy,
>
> I'm curious, too, to get the group's take on your question a
Thanks, Randy. After pushing go, I reread your post and realized you were
discussing the Appaloosa. Are they a bit heavy? I've heard same about 2TT
Atlantis.
On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 12:47:09 PM MST, larson@gmail.com
wrote:
Scott,I have never ridden an Atlantis, but woul
Weight is always dependent on context. Here are the factors that I consider:
- The lighter you and your load is, the more weight of the bike matters.
My 200 pound friends will never feel the difference between a 17 pound bike
and a 28 pound bike, but at 140 pounds, I can tell the differ
I think the reason that Rivendells ride the way they do is the same reason
Rivendell will never be financial powerhouse or direct "influencer". Grant
is interested in feel, function, and aesthetic balance that is "just
right" counter to any sort of industry "trend" "study" "statistics" etc.
H
I think there's another factor, which is that he's not designing a bike
that will be resold in 2-3 years for the latest/greatest gadget. The
average mountain biker upgrades much more frequently than I do, and gravel
bikes have evolved quickly as well to try to get people onto the upgrade
treadm
Chris,
I've heard this too, about the trade secret numbers.
It made me wonder, has anyone ridden another bike that rides like a
Rivendell?
To me, more-or-less like Joe said, it's nimble handling that also feels
extremely stable. It's easy to change lines around a curve, but it's also
easy to
Paul asked about another bike that rides like a Rivendell. I have a Mercian
Audax that was built to my specs with 725 tubing and 650b wheels. The bike
rides and handles as well as any Rivendell I've owned. This is completely
subjective of course and YMMV.
Best,
Rich in ATL
On Thursday, Novembe
IMO, the "signature" ride of at least all the Rivendells I've ridden is the
reason that Grant's designs remain my handling benchmark after almost 30
years and the reason that the 1999 Joe Starck custom is my favorite bike of
all time.
Some of the 5 Rivs I've owned have handled better (to my taste)
Rich
Can you share the STA, OD and wall thickness of the main tubes and the
trail for the Mercian?? Curious as to how they compare to your Rivendells.
I looked at the Mercian 15 years ago and they are very nice frames/forks.
The price was good even at the exchange rate then. Might be bette
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