Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-30 Thread Steve Palincsar
And/being there/ is more fun when you are /all ther/e, don't you think? On 3/30/19 5:43 AM, Garth wrote: Life is Living and Living is Life.  Indivisibility, Infinity .  Life cannot harm or heal Life for the simple fact that *_Life Itself Living is Living Itself Life _ .* Life is Life's Own

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-30 Thread Steve Palincsar
The crash Mark experienced can hardly be said to have been the result of "risk compensation."  It fits better into the /bad shit happens unexpectedly and without warning/ category.  As for statistics, I am wholeheartedly with Christopher: /I've hit my head on the ground with and without a helme

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-30 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Those gulls have been busy on your helmet, Leah! Grin. Great helmet and great color and great non-racer, everyday look! I shifted to wearing red. It is not the utility worker/bike racer flourescent, but the human eye ALWAYS sees it. I first noticed this with the red winged blackbird. I could te

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-30 Thread Joe Bernard
That helmet ROCKS 🙂 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-o

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-30 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 3/30/19 4:52 PM, Leah Peterson wrote: Yeah, the #0 blade isn’t gonna work out. I can re-do braids fairly easily, but GEEZ, helmets destroy the body and curl of a good hair day. Well, that's true, but if you go down and slide on the side of your head instead of on the side of your helmet

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-30 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Edwin, You have perfectly presented logic, stats, comparisons, and whimsy to cover all the bases of Helmet use IMHO. Free will allows us each to make make the best individual choice for “ourselves” based on are willingness to accept the odds and consequences. Thank you all for remaining civil

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-30 Thread Patrick Moore
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 6:08 PM 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Edwin, > You have perfectly presented logic, stats, comparisons, and whimsy to > cover all the bases of Helmet use IMHO. Free will allows us each to make > make the best individual cho

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-30 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I agree that was a good presentation. Although of course there are no stats available on "the odds" or "the consequences." Which I believe was one of Edwin's points. One situation where I would heartily recommend helmet use: when bringing up this topic on iBoB. Nice to give people the space to

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-03-31 Thread tc
Leah, you should point The Clem Rider to any one of Danny MacAskill's videos. Arguably the most talented trick bike rider out there. He wears a helmet, so if The Clem Rider wants to be REALLY cool like Danny, he should wear a helmet! Heck, get him a helmet cam too! Of course, this may give

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I am pretty sure that I pay more attention to my riding when riding fixed, and while riding sans helmet. Can't say I feel out of place, though. Danny MacAskill is pretty amazing, but I wonder how many trial (heh heh) runs and editing led up to that very fun video. Did he really do that hay bale tr

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Patrick Moore
"He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning." 5 gold stars to anyone who can attribute this dictum. Garth, I love you. Over and out. Patrick Moore, currently helmetless at his keyboard in ABQ, NM. On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 3:43 AM Garth wrote: > > > Life is Living and Living is Life. Ind

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
Libquotes attributes it to Samuel Johnson, but doesn't source it beyond that. On 4/1/19 1:19 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: "He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning." 5 gold stars to anyone who can attribute this dictum. Garth, I love you. Over and out. Patrick Moore, currently helmetless

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Josette Akresh-Gonzales
Dear friends, This is a fascinatingly humble and civil thread! ❤️ Two summers ago I decided to stop wearing a helmet after I realized that mine was about 10 years old and I'd been told that they should be replaced every 3 years. My B.S.-o'meter went off and since then I've been working on

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Patrick Moore
In an appreciation of John Dryden. [image: image.png] On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 11:42 AM Steve Palincsar wrote: > Libquotes attributes it to Samuel Johnson, but doesn't source it beyond > that. > On 4/1/19 1:19 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > "He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning." > > 5 g

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Garth, you are in good company! On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 12:44 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > In an appreciation of John Dryden. > >> On 4/1/19 1:19 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> "He delighted to tread upon the brink of meaning." >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
Given that there’s so much concern out there about whether motorists notice cyclists at all, it’s nice to see that some drivers (see item #5) pay so much attention that they discern whether we’re wearing a helmet and adjust passing distances accordingly. I wish that was the case, but I don’t thi

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Eric, I think the idea is “glimpse cognition recognition” (a technical term I just made up). Riding down a trail, I am always scanning ahead, scouting my line of travel as I impliment it. I don’t identify most trees as I pass, but I do notice branches sticking out that effect my line and adjust

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Patrick Moore
All of the below, but principally because I don't like doing something when I see no good reason for it -- per my earlier posts. I often wonder if there *are* good reasons, but I haven't seen them yet. I'm still weighing the question and hoping for more evidence. As far as I know, wearing a helmet

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Joe Bernard
- I'm still weighing the question and hoping for more evidence - Put a helmet on, bang your head on a wall. Take off helmet, repeat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
I was the Workshop Chair for the 1974 Great Eastern Rally in Poughkeepsie NY.  The MSR bicycle helmet was only weeks away from introduction, and a friend who was involved in its development put on a workshop about it.  After comparing it to the leather hairnet racing helmets of the day, he conc

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Ryan M.
Joe, you hit the nail on the head (or head on the wall). I know what I want on my head when I’m banging it into a wall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread S
I don’t think anyone here believes a helmet offers a magical level of protection in a serious crash. But as I and others have observed in this thread, a helmet absolutely can keep your face off the blacktop. As I went skidding along the ground in my last bad crash, I was grateful it was the side

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Sure, Joe. On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 1:36 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > - I'm still weighing the question and hoping for more evidence - > > Put a helmet on, bang your head on a wall. Take off helmet, repeat. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll be sure to choose a modern helmet over a hairnet when I whack myself over the head with an Indian club. I'd rather say a prayer. (And I do, sharing The Deacon's proclivities. At any rate, a brief prayer looks better than helmet hair and is guaranteed -Amen! - more effective than an herbal nec

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-01 Thread S
What happened to the original thread? Did it get too contentious? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-02 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Did I miss something while I was away? What happened to the helmet thread? Did it get nixed for some reason or another? On Monday, April 1, 2019 at 5:52:50 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Sure, Joe. > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 1:36 PM Joe Bernard > wrote: > >> - I'm still weighing the questio

Re: [RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

2019-04-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Could someone please email me off group with my first post to the helmet thread? I wanted to use part of it in a blog post. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rece