[TANKS] Re: M01's - battery current

2009-01-09 Thread Derek Engelhaupt
Yeah, I was just trying to get a rise out of you Steve. God knows the Cromwell doesn't need anymore speed. :-) Derek On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Steve Tyng wrote: > >> I do believe the EV Warriors self destruct at 36V;-) > > The Battlebot guys used to run the EVW's at 36v for spinner

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2009-01-09 Thread Mike Mangus
8:33:21 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: M01's - battery current > I do believe the EV Warriors self destruct at 36V;-) The Battlebot guys used to run the EVW's at 36v for spinner weapons. Anyway, I wouldn't seriously try to run my tank at 36v. It's been proven very reliabl

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2009-01-09 Thread George Mastoras
Oops forgot to put the link http://www.evpower.com.au/-Lithium-Ion-LiFePO4-Batteries-.html On 9/1/09 10:55 PM, "George Mastoras" wrote: > > Heres another site on batteries, I kinda like the ready made batteries > looking like SLAs, very suitable for tanks. The 12AH batteries might be an > op

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2009-01-09 Thread George Mastoras
Heres another site on batteries, I kinda like the ready made batteries looking like SLAs, very suitable for tanks. The 12AH batteries might be an option to build with. Could start with 2 maybe, at that size you could use the batteries for other applications increasing their return value. On anoth

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2009-01-09 Thread Modena
I got a local quote from the AU distributor, $1400 for 24v 20ah + about another $200 for charger - no doubt these genuine ones are all singing all dancing and tested to hell and came back prancing. I think I'll get a Chinese knock off from ebay On Jan 9, 10:33 pm, Steve Tyng wrote: > > I do be

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2009-01-09 Thread Steve Tyng
> I do believe the EV Warriors self destruct at 36V;-) The Battlebot guys used to run the EVW's at 36v for spinner weapons. Anyway, I wouldn't seriously try to run my tank at 36v. It's been proven very reliable at 24v and why mess with a good thing. The 36v 20ah pack could be fabricated to p

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2009-01-09 Thread Paul Hilton
7;m not singing praises to the Chinese, but Paul H. - Original Message - From: "Modena" To: "R/C Tank Combat" Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:11 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: M01's - battery current > > here is the real deal of LifePo4's, 24v 2

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2009-01-08 Thread Derek Engelhaupt
I do believe the EV Warriors self destruct at 36V;-) Derek On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Steve Tyng wrote: > > These LiFePO4 batteries are a great find. Looks like I could easily > adapt the 24v 20ah pack into the Cromwell and save 10 pounds weight. > The question is could I get a good 2

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2009-01-08 Thread Modena
here is the real deal of LifePo4's, 24v 20a is about $1K in US US: www.lifebatt.com UK: www.lifebatt.co.uk On Jan 9, 10:47 am, jvragu47 wrote: > Very interesting article Paul. Even mentioned the "Chinese" copies. > The Chinese probably used lead in these batteries. It seems every > export from

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2009-01-08 Thread jvragu47
Very interesting article Paul. Even mentioned the "Chinese" copies. The Chinese probably used lead in these batteries. It seems every export from China has a little lead in them.Thanks for the reasearch. John On Jan 8, 10:07 am, "Paul Hilton" wrote: > Here is another link, more info related: >

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2009-01-08 Thread Thomas Lum
Could we do a group buy and get a lower price? On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Steve Tyng wrote: > > These LiFePO4 batteries are a great find. Looks like I could easily > adapt the 24v 20ah pack into the Cromwell and save 10 pounds weight. > The question is could I get a good 2hr runtime (hate to h

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2009-01-08 Thread Paul Hilton
Here is another link, more info related: http://www.austrol.com.au/index.cfm?menukey=125 Paul H. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, sen

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2009-01-08 Thread Steve Tyng
These LiFePO4 batteries are a great find. Looks like I could easily adapt the 24v 20ah pack into the Cromwell and save 10 pounds weight. The question is could I get a good 2hr runtime (hate to have to buy two of these things) With a little more work I could shoehorn the 36v 20ah pack in and

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2009-01-07 Thread Paul Hilton
- Original Message - From: "Frank Pittelli" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: M01's - battery current > > Paul Hilton wrote: >> One 24v 20Ah LiFePO4 battery might be had for about $200, more or less. Frank Pittelli wrote:

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2009-01-07 Thread Frank Pittelli
Paul Hilton wrote: > One 24v 20Ah LiFePO4 battery might be had for about $200, more or less. Where? I haven't found a 24v 20Ah LiFePO4 battery for less than $400. Those batteries are definitely in our future, but it will be a couple more years until enough EV cars are using them to cause the p

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2009-01-07 Thread Frank Pittelli
Paul Hilton wrote: > One 24v 20Ah LiFePO4 battery might be had for about $200, more or less. Where? I haven't found a 24v 20Ah LiFePO4 battery for less than $400. Those batteries are definitely in our future, but it will be a couple more years until enough EV cars are using them to cause the p

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2009-01-07 Thread Modena
yes, LifePo4 batteries can take thousands of recharges in their service life, and can be fully depleted without damage, they also will never explode or burst, unlike some other lithium battery technologies. On Jan 8, 7:21 am, Aahz wrote: > Paul Hilton wrote: > > I had to look these things up.  

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2009-01-07 Thread Modena
yes, thousands of recharges in the service life of a LifePo4, and they WILL NEVER EXPLODE OR BURST (unlike some other lithium technology batteries) On Jan 8, 7:21 am, Aahz wrote: > Paul Hilton wrote: > > I had to look these things up.  I know very little about new battery tech > > and was wond

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2009-01-07 Thread Aahz
Paul Hilton wrote: > I had to look these things up. I know very little about new battery tech > and was wondering about cost vs service life. I found this: > > http://www.instructables.com/community/LiFePo4-batteries/ > > A pair of 20Ah 12v SLAs would cost about $100 plus postage, more or less.

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2009-01-07 Thread Paul Hilton
l" To: "R/C Tank Combat" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: M01's - battery current > > I've just checked on ebay- they cost £125 to over £200 from China. > > Still, who needs to eat? > > Phil > > On Jan 7, 3:55 pm, &q

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2009-01-07 Thread Robert
What would the price of this Li 24v 20ah battery be? Chrys $449 But shipping is free from China. Sounds like a good deal (if you are crazy). *** If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman to hear him, IS HE STILL WRONG? __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versio

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2009-01-07 Thread Chris Malton
Hrmph, that's a scary figure. My SLAs were cheap enough, £12 each, 7.2Ah - that's plenty as far as I'm concerned. Chris On 07/01/2009 16:42, Phil wrote: > I've just checked on ebay- they cost £125 to over £200 from China. > > Still, who needs to eat? > > Phil > > On Jan 7, 3:55 pm, "Chrysantho

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2009-01-07 Thread Phil
I've just checked on ebay- they cost £125 to over £200 from China. Still, who needs to eat? Phil On Jan 7, 3:55 pm, "Chrysanthos Kanellopoulos" wrote: > What would the price of this Li 24v 20ah battery be? > Chrys > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Modena" > To: "R/C Tank Combat"

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2009-01-07 Thread Frank Pittelli
Modena wrote: > With twin M01's what sort of continuous current draw do I need to > allow for in my battery system? > > I am thinking of buying a 24v 20ah Lithium, and adding another one > later if run-time is not acceptable. According to the specs you provided, the max continuous discharge rate

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2009-01-07 Thread Chrysanthos Kanellopoulos
What would the price of this Li 24v 20ah battery be? Chrys - Original Message - From: "Modena" To: "R/C Tank Combat" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:08 AM Subject: [TANKS] M01's - battery current > > With twin M01's what sort of continuous current draw do I need to > allow for i

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2009-01-07 Thread Crooks, Steven M
Impressive, Li batteries look like a good deal. My Pb Acid (12 x 18aH x 2) last a few minutes in My Sherman. (But that doesn't matter much, it usually throws a track in 30 seconds...) -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

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2009-01-06 Thread Modena
weight (6kg), charging cycles (over 2000), and longer discharge than equivelant SLA or NimH search ebay for "24v lifepo4" On Jan 7, 4:26 pm, "Don Shankin" wrote: > I'm curious as to where you're getting this battery and how much it's going > to run you.  I will be looking at batteries soon and

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2009-01-06 Thread Don Shankin
I'm curious as to where you're getting this battery and how much it's going to run you. I will be looking at batteries soon and I haven't come across any lithium batteries with such a high capacity On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Modena wrote: > > With twin M01's what sort of continuous curren

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2009-01-06 Thread Doug Conn
I have two M01s in T058, which is a pretty heavy tank. There's a 35A circuit breaker on each motor which has never tripped. I also have a current sensor installed, albeit a pretty inaccurate one. I've never seen it read anything over 36A total, even going up a steep hill at full speed. Skid turns