Re: Resolving the citation dilemma

2006-07-25 Thread Diane I. Hillmann
Adam: I think this is a good suggestion for moving forward, even though I firmly believe that text-based citation should be the last choice, and only when more direct links are impossible. It mystifies me why there seems to be so much resistance to the idea of providing direct links to either

Re: Comments on RDA draft 6.10

2006-07-25 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Kevin M. Randall said: >The linking fields are there for the purpose of creating notes and linking >related records. The authors of RDA seem to me to be thinking in terms of FRBR, linking in particular, when writing the provisions under discussion. If you have a link to a record, you presumably

Re: Comments on RDA draft 6.10

2006-07-25 Thread Kevin M. Randall
At 04:34 PM 7/25/2006, J. McRee Elrod wrote: >I don't think 780 and 785 are access points. They are access points in every catalogue for which we prepare MARC records. Why else have them? If one just wanted a note, wouldn't one use 5XX? While some systems (or implementations of some system

Re: Comments on RDA draft 6.10

2006-07-25 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Some of these linking field citations do NOT make good access points, because of the way they are constructed and coded all in one MARC subfield, witness the following linking fields for translations of journals: 780 00 $t Radiotekhnika i elektronika. English. Radio engineering and electronics

Re: Comments on RDA draft 6.10

2006-07-25 Thread J. McRee Elrod
>I don't think 780 and 785 are access points. They are access points in every catalogue for which we prepare MARC records. Why else have them? If one just wanted a note, wouldn't one use 5XX? __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) {__ | / Special Libraries Catalo

Re: Comments on RDA draft 6.10

2006-07-25 Thread Renette Davis
At 02:11 PM 7/25/2006, Mac Elrod wrote: Rennette Davis said: >6.10.1.2.1b.1 - Why would you want to provide an access point for the >preceding resource? Wouldn't that be a latest entry record? We do this now via 780 (to speak in MARC). The difficulty is that if a collection lacks one segment o

Alternative at 6.4.1.2.1c.2 and 6.4.2.2.1c.2

2006-07-25 Thread Renette Davis
I very much like the alternative at 6.4.1.2.1c.2 to record the elements of the original resouce in parallel with the corresponding elements for the reproduction and have been trying to think about how this might be extended to other types of relationships, as we were asked to do in the cover lett

Comments on RDA draft 6.10

2006-07-25 Thread Renette Davis
A few more comments on RDA draft 6.10. 6.10.1.1.2 - List includes "resources that are superseded by another resource". "Superseded by" is a pre-AACR2 term. Is it coming back now? 6.10.1.2.1a.3 - How would this look? This section is for recording the earlier titles on the record for the later

Re: Comments on RDA draft 6.10

2006-07-25 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Rennette Davis said: >6.10.1.2.1b.1 - Why would you want to provide an access point for the >preceding resource? Wouldn't that be a latest entry record? We do this now via 780 (to speak in MARC). The difficulty is that if a collection lacks one segment of a serial which has had several title ch

Re: Draft of RDA part A, chapters 6-7 (initial articles i n titles)

2006-07-25 Thread Mike Tribby

Re: Draft of RDA part A, chapters 6-7 (initial articles in titles)

2006-07-25 Thread Charles Croissant
John Hostage wrote: Our rules for omitting initial articles are based on the limitations of our 20th-century systems. I don't think RDA is or should be concerned with such MARC implementation issues. We librarians have gotten used to it, but there are many titles that look odd without the in

Embedded descriptions

2006-07-25 Thread Renette Davis
I am trying to visualize what embedded descriptions would look like and how they would function in RDA records. It looks to me like an embedded description is a note, from the examples in 6.1.5.0.1 and 6.2.1.2.1c.1 and 6.2.2.2.1c.1 and 6.3.1.2.1c.1 and 6.4.1.2.1c.1 and 6.4.2.2.1c.1. The example

Re: Terminology in RDA draft

2006-07-25 Thread Rich Aldred
At 04:33 PM 7/24/2006, Gordon, Antony wrote: I think (and hope) that Rich's wish will not be fulfilled because for printed and recorded music in the Western tradition the reverse is most definitely the case. Music publishing has been international and multilingual in scope for centuries so UTs