Re: [RDA-L] 347 for digital files

2013-11-12 Thread Harden, Jean
I realize that the question is about PDFs. My unit doesn't handle those, but for audio materials we stick to 347 $a and $b. Sometimes a disc will have two applicable $b values (such as a hybrid CD/SACD), in which case we will repeat $b. This is in accordance with the freely available document "B

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

2013-07-25 Thread Harden, Jean
Sheet? That's what we use for music of this sort. Jean Harden Coordinator of Music Technical Services University of North Texas Denton, TX 76203 jean.har...@unt.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Rieg

Re: [RDA-L] Question about preferred title for a compilation

2013-05-24 Thread Harden, Jean
n about preferred title for a compilation For separate works of one person/family/corporate body, I think that we use 730/740 fields. Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Harden, Jean mailto:jean.har...@unt.edu>> wrote: Recording each separate work's title is something we do al

Re: [RDA-L] Question about preferred title for a compilation

2013-05-24 Thread Harden, Jean
son/family/corporate body, I think that we use 730/740 fields. Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Harden, Jean mailto:jean.har...@unt.edu>> wrote: Recording each separate work's title is something we do all the time in music cataloging. In MARC, you use the field 700 12

Re: [RDA-L] Question about preferred title for a compilation

2013-05-24 Thread Harden, Jean
Recording each separate work's title is something we do all the time in music cataloging. In MARC, you use the field 700 12 . $t . For each work, you do a new 700 field. When you name all the works this way, RDA (for instance, in 6.2.2.10.3, Alternative) allows you either to stop at that or also

Re: [RDA-L] Use of brackets in RDA records

2013-05-21 Thread Harden, Jean
According to RDA 2.8.1.4, you transcribe whatever appears on the source of information. If both the main publisher and the imprint appear, you transcribe both, unless you have chosen to follow the option that allows omitting levels in a corporate hierarchy that are not required to identify the p

Re: [RDA-L] Source of new terms for 300 subfield a

2013-04-26 Thread Harden, Jean
The instructions for recording extent are in 3.4.1.3 in the RDA Toolkit. There you are told to use "an appropriate term for the type of carrier as listed under 3.3.1.3." The latter is where you find a list of acceptable terms, such as audio disc. RDA 3.4.1.5 also gives you permission to use a te

Re: [RDA-L] Using 344-347?

2013-04-25 Thread Harden, Jean
At the moment, the University of North Texas Music Library is indeed using the 34x fields as relevant, but since they don't yet display in our public catalog, we are also putting the relevant information in 300 $b, which does display. Once the display issues are straightened out, we will stop us

Re: [RDA-L] order in 245 when title is more than one language, with bits in each language interspersed

2013-04-04 Thread Harden, Jean
A private communication from a member of the group that has worked out the document "Best Practices for Music Cataloging" (http://bcc.musiclibraryassoc.org/BCC-Historical/BCC2013/RDA_Best_Practices_for_Music_Cataloging.pdf) said that the next version of this document will include a section on th

[RDA-L] order in 245 when title is more than one language, with bits in each language interspersed

2013-04-03 Thread Harden, Jean
How should this 245 be ordered? The title page of the item says this: Trio in G-Dur, Trio in G major, für Violine, Violoncello und Klavier, for violin, cello and piano, B. 446 This particular example is complicated by being one of the sorts of music titles that is made up of a type word, key,

Re: [RDA-L] Query re. 264 in RDA Toolkit

2013-03-22 Thread Harden, Jean
The mappings haven't been updated yet. Once they are, 264 will appear where appropriate. Jean Harden Music Catalog Librarian University of North Texas Denton, TX 76203 jean.har...@unt.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.

Re: [RDA-L] question about dates in 264 fields

2013-01-11 Thread Harden, Jean
I was just looking at that. I believe that the problem is that the Toolkit hasn't yet been updated to reflect the existence of 264. The MARC21 Bibliographic Format on Cataloger's Desktop was just updated very recently to include it. Until a few days ago, the only place to find it was on the LC

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Matters No. 16

2012-09-20 Thread Harden, Jean
what the podcast was getting at: Has anyone asked practicing reference librarians what they thought of RDA? On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Harden, Jean mailto:jean.har...@unt.edu>> wrote: This "more effort" issue worried me, too, until I oversaw a project, using people who

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Matters No. 16

2012-09-20 Thread Harden, Jean
This "more effort" issue worried me, too, until I oversaw a project, using people who were learning to catalog right then. They were supposed to be cataloging in AACR2. To my tremendous surprise, the great majority of their errors were in fact RDA-compliant. The project and this observation were

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: References from one chapter to another in RDA

2011-04-13 Thread Harden, Jean
For at least some of this, the Element Set View (which I hadn't explored until yesterday) is a great help. It assembles all the rules relevant to a particular RDA Element together in one place. Sometimes the rules so assembled are contiguous in RDA itself, but sometimes there are reference (and

Re: [RDA-L] FRBR

2011-04-11 Thread Harden, Jean
My experience leads me to the opposite conclusion. For people who don't already know how to catalog, much of RDA *is* simpler, more transparent, and so forth than AACR2. It's only those of us who have been using AACR2 for years that have so much trouble grasping the new rules. In my job I teach

Re: [RDA-L] Web catalog

2010-12-02 Thread Harden, Jean
What needs doing with your web catalog depends entirely on your vendor. It is very likely to take a telephone call or an online contact to the company to say you want the RDA tags made workable in your system. The vendor probably will know what fields these are but might need a list of fields yo

Re: [RDA-L] LC's policies on RDA options

2010-10-26 Thread Harden, Jean
Look at http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/RDAtest/rdachoices.html for the choices LC has made for the test period. Jean Jean Harden, Music Catalog Librarian Libraries University of North Texas 1155 Union Circle #305190 Denton, TX 76203-5017 (940) 565-2860 jean.har...@unt.edu

Re: [RDA-L] FRBR, RDA ... and transcendental idealism

2008-12-22 Thread Harden, Jean
Are you perhaps thinking of E28 Conceptual Object (of which Work is a subclass). According to FRBRoo, "this class comprises non-material products of our minds and information produced by humans." As I see it, the practical value of this class is in linking various specific expressions and manif

Re: [RDA-L] Moving image work record

2008-09-22 Thread Harden, Jean
The Music Library Association's BCC Working Group on Work Records included in its final report an explicit mention (expectation, hope?) that the information that belongs to the work record would be recorded only there. Manifestation records would include only information *different from* or addi

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Harden, Jean
In a few places, the justification for a rule is something along the lines that "library catalogers need this information in this form." So these best practices weren't created without reference to library needs. That's good to know. An element compilers of library cataloging rules could perhap

Re: [RDA-L] Expression and Manifestation

2008-04-07 Thread Harden, Jean
> -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / > Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan > Rochkind > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:09 PM > To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Expression and > Manifestation > >

Re: One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Harden, Jean
Try http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/jsc/rda.html This doubtless doesn't have everything you need (for instance, I don't believe it has any vendor information, by which I presume you mean ILS vendors), but it has a lot. Jean Harden, Music Catalog Librarian Libraries University of North Texas