Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-06 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Karen, Thanks for your comments. My replies are included: The practical consideration is not FRBR but is linked data, which FRBR (or something like it) facilitates. And yes, it is being investigated in a number of instances, some being the XC project, Open Library, Freebase. It is also the topic

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-05 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Weinheimer Jim : "That doesn't make sense, *unless the idea is that we must shoehorn everything into an FRBR world* where everything has all those extra records for works, expressions and so on. That is an unwarranted assumption, I believe. The model was never tested for conform

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-05 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Karen Coyle wrote: Unfortunately, you, Diane, and Jonathan are not talking about the same thing. You, Jim, are talking about the rules, and Diane and Jonathan are talking about the data model. Unfortunately, both ISBD and RDA describe both data model and the rules for making decisions about the da

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Weinheimer Jim : So I still do not understand why we have to have new rules (or new rule numbers) for determining and inputting the title of a book? What has changed? Unfortunately, you, Diane, and Jonathan are not talking about the same thing. You, Jim, are talking about the r

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Diane I. Hillmann wrote: I think you're right about this, and I think the general habit of looking at RDA primarily as a set of cataloging rules leads to this mode of thinking. Yes, it's the attitude that matters, yet RDA seems to encourage even more of the latitude that that proved so detr

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Diane I. Hillmann wrote: Jonathan, I think you're right about this, and I think the general habit of looking at RDA primarily as a set of cataloging rules leads to this mode of thinking. On 8/4/10 10:00 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: I would not assume that. One way that the digital world is qu

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Diane I. Hillmann
Jonathan, I think you're right about this, and I think the general habit of looking at RDA primarily as a set of cataloging rules leads to this mode of thinking. Diane On 8/4/10 10:00 AM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Weinheimer Jim wrote: our patrons want from the records we are to make. T

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Weinheimer Jim wrote: our patrons want from the records we are to make. The digital world is quite different from the printed world, and I think we all still coming to terms with that, including myself. (I am assuming here that there is no need to change substantially any ISBD/AACR2 rules *for phy

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Bernhard Eversberg wrote: Isn't this just as well, if in fact it doesn't live up to being groundbreaking kind of innovation that would be called for in this day and age? Instead, it draws out the lines sketched by Cutter already, but then little more. There's not a word about catalog enrichment,

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Mike Tribby
"Isn't this just as well, if in fact it doesn't live up to being groundbreaking kind of innovation that would be called for in this day and age? Instead, it draws out the lines sketched by Cutter already, but then little more. There's not a word about catalog enrichment, blank chapters about the

Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Weinheimer Jim wrote: This first one is, of course, about FRBR and RDA. Listen to it at: http://catalogingmatters.blogspot.com/2010/08/cataloging-matters-podcast-1.html "Cataloging matters" is, in its ambiguity of meaning, probably the best possible title. Good luck with it! In this podcas

[RDA-L] Cataloging Podcast

2010-08-04 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Apologies for cross-posting Well, for quite some time I have toyed with the idea of making podcasts and decided to take the plunge. It's a short one; I still have lots to learn, but here it is. This first one is, of course, about FRBR and RDA. Listen to it at: http://catalogingmatters.blogspot.