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From: "Brenda Parris Parker"
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Could I ask which vendor that is?
Thanks.
Brenda
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>And you're
VTLS in the Virtua system has what I call a RDA implementation
scenario one WEMI system. Please see the presentation "Insights and
Processes from VTLS's 8 Years of Experience with FRBR and RDA" that Dr.
Vinod Chachra and I made at the RDA101 pre-conference at the last ALA
meeting in Washingto
Could I ask which vendor that is?
Thanks.
Brenda
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>And you're saying that there is at least one vendor currently working on
>an ILS that will accommodate RDA right out of the box? Kudos to them.
Brenda Par
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> Marjorie Bloss wrote:
> >
> > Regarding vendor preparation for RDA, it would have been difficult to
> > develop a system to accommodate RDA out of the box when RDA wasn't
> >
Marjorie Bloss wrote:
Regarding vendor preparation for RDA, it would have been difficult to
develop a system to accommodate RDA out of the box when RDA wasn't available
until June 23rd of this year. However it would indeed have been possible
for ILS vendors to redesign their systems to suppo
ptual models as their basis.
Marjorie
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From: "Mike Tribby"
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:13 PM
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Good questions John.
"Myers, John F." wrote:
>A new coding system, like a successor to MARC? Who are you? And what
>have you done to our colleague Mac?
I'm quite happy with AACR2 (with a few changes such as the RDA way of
entering treaties), as now coded in MARC.
But IF we are to h
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From: Marjorie Bloss
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Feedback on RDA
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> But would ILS vendors develop their systems first, with
>But would ILS vendors develop their systems first, without new
>instructions/cataloging code on which to base their work? With the exception
>of one vendor that I'm aware of, it seems to me that most vendors have waited
>until RDA was pretty much a reality before deciding to move forward w
ith a
redesign of their systems. A vicious circle...
Marjorie
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> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:30:40 -0700
> From: m...@slc.bc.ca
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Feedba
J. McRee Elrod wrote:
More to the point, I think, would have been a recommendation that work
on RDA cease until a coding system was designed, and ILS development
took place, which could accommodate the implementation of FRBR and
FRAD.
I think RDA implementation should be delayed at least until th
Marjorie Bloss said:
>... recommendation was that work should cease on RDA until there had been
>further testing of FRBR (and FRAD).
More to the point, I think, would have been a recommendation that work
on RDA cease until a coding system was designed, and ILS development
took place, which cou
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:03 PM
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A couple of comments...
Fir
A couple of comments...
First the RDA testing timeline:
The Library of Congress, the National Agriculture Library and the National
Library of Medicine decided they would take six months to test RDA after its
first release which was June 23rd. Testing will be done to respond to the
assumptions
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My take on this is that there is a difference between havi
I think there's an improvement to the process of calling for feedback that
could have helped in RDA, could help in the future as well. In the revised
documents or something supporting them, provide some evidence of the response
to feedback. For example, say that 17 clarifications were made of
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I shudder at the thought of hearing that argument from my doctor. What
happened to continuing education and job skill development? We've been
offering workshops, pre-conferences, webinars, etc., on FR-related things
and RDA for several years now. There
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Feedback on RDA
> Without taking a position one way or the other on the usability RDA as a
ruleset or the software ALA has wrapped it in, I'll just say that It's not
fair to sa
Myers, John F. wrote:
The deadlines were there to ensure that the responses were submitted on
time to the JSC which was operating under the dual time constraints of
its own meeting schedule and the deadlines set by the publishers. ...
Deadlines set by the publishers, well. One has to accept t
J. McRee Elrod wrote:
But I do think it is fair to say that much of the feedback has not
been heeded.
And one of the most important suggestions, from no less than The Library of
Congress Working Group on the Future of Bibliographic Control, suggested the
suspension of RDA since it doesn't do w
Tina Shrader said:
>Without taking a position one way or the other on the usability RDA
>as a ruleset or the software ALA has wrapped it in, I'll just say
>that It's not fair to say that there's been no feedback ...
But I do think it is fair to say that much of the feedback has not
been heeded.
f Miksa, Shawne
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I shudder at the thought of hearing that argument from my doctor. What happened
to continuing education and job skill development? We've been offering
workshops, pre-c
>If you are unwilling to make the time, or insist to your employer that you
>need time during work hours
Sadly this is a non-starter in many work environments.
>then what will you do when RDA is implemented and you don't have a clue what
>to do?
That is the paramount question for many.
We hav
f Jones, Bonnie [bjo...@spscc.ctc.edu]
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I don't think "disinterest" is exactly the right word. Speaking for
myself, I am too busy keeping up with the everyday demands of m
[rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Wilson, Margaret [mwil...@ku.edu]
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Feedback on RDA
Here's another consideration. When the first draft of RDA came out I spent a
considerable amount of
The work involved in compiling the constituency responses to the drafts
was COLOSSAL. The stated deadlines were there for good reason.
In the U.S., the approximately 50 members of CC:DA were providing raw
input from their personal and subconstituency perspectives, to which was
added comments from
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> Without taking a position one way or the other on the usability RDA as a
> ruleset or the s
alf Of Mills, Deborah
> Sent: August 30, 2010 3:14 PM
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> Subject: [RDA-L] Feedback on RDA
>
>
> I agree with a previous poster about the convoluted language being imposed,
> and am dismayed by the response from one of the RDA authors that it is
>
> Without taking a position one way or the other on the usability RDA as a
> ruleset or the software ALA has wrapped it in, I'll just say that It's not
> fair to say that there's been no feedback from the library community about
> the content of the RDA instructions. The content of RDA has been
lf Of Mills, Deborah
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 3:14 PM
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> Subject: [RDA-L] Feedback on RDA
>
> Hi everyone. This is my first time posting to the list, which I joined a
> couple of
> weeks ago.
>
> Like many of you, I am struggl
>What surprises me is the speed at which it seems to be going through: I
>haven't seen any mention from the powers that be about taking any length of
>time to gather and process feedback after the 2 month preview, and perhaps
>tweak either RDA or the toolkit to reflect changes suggested by users
Hi everyone. This is my first time posting to the list, which I joined a couple
of weeks ago.
Like many of you, I am struggling to wrap my head around RDA and the toolkit.
What surprises me is the speed at which it seems to be going through: I haven't
seen any mention from the powers that be ab
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