Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-17 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
/ Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: October 17, 2012 9:08 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors My understanding is that 100/700 field itself indicates creator/co

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-17 Thread Joan Wang
My understanding is that 100/700 field itself indicates creator/contributorrelationship of a person/family/corporate body with the resource. So we do not have to put creator/contributor as a relationship designator. They are umbrella terms to cover various specific relationships like author or illu

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-17 Thread James Weinheimer
On 16/10/2012 23:04, Deborah Fritz wrote: > Putting all the legacy MARC records out of our mind, it is **really** > important to record this information, if you want to be able to, > someday, reliably machine map the data in the new RDA/MARC records you > are creating into a new encoding format th

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Maxwell
n and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:19 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors Bob, I agree with you that we *should* be able to add 'creator'

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Robert Maxwell said: >I don't think I agree with this as an argument for not including high >level general terms in the relationship terms available ... SLC agrees with Robert. It i still on open question whether SLC will use relationship designators; only one client so far has said they want th

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Deborah Fritz
ofquality.com www.marcofquality.com -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:34 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Questi

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Deborah Fritz
day, October 17, 2012 9:45 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors The designator codes are not mandatory across the board, but certain values are considered core values under certain institutional policies for certain resou

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Ed Jones
rprise Systems MIT Libraries 617-253-7137 -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:57 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors But is the subfield e relationship designator mandatory or optional, for the 1xx field, for the 7xx field? Jack Jack Wu Franciscan University of Steubenville >>> "Brenndorfer, Thomas" >>> mailto:tbrenndor...@li

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Jack Wu
s / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu Sent: October 16, 2012 3:54 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors Some rather basic questions I'm still ignorant of. Is it all

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
ce Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:27 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors Here's a simple chart:

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
designators. Thomas Brenndorfer Guelph Public Library From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu Sent: October 16, 2012 3:54 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship t

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Jack Wu
Some rather basic questions I'm still ignorant of. Is it allowable to have some access points with the relationship designator and some without any relationship designator? And are the terms of creator and author mutually exclusive. Thanks, Jack Jack Wu Franciscan University of Steubenville

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Maxwell
d"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:13 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L]

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Adam L. Schiff
ehalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:57 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors The principal drawback I see to using ad-hoc terms is that they necessarily fall outside any structure relating terms in a hierarchical

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
ies 617-253-7137 -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:57 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Ed Jones
/ Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:00 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors Thanks for the replies and suggestions. --Ben Be

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Maxwell
scription and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:57 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors The LC-PCC Policy Statement fo

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:57 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors The LC-PCC Policy Statement for K.1 says "Use only terms from Appendix K if supplying relationship designators i

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Adam L. Schiff
The LC-PCC Policy Statement for K.1 says "Use only terms from Appendix K if supplying relationship designators in the shared LC/NACO Authority File. Do not supply terms beyond those found in this Appendix." But there is no similar restriction in the LC-PCC PS for J.1 or I.1, so it would appear t

Re: [RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Joan Wang
Hi, These are general guidelines for using relationship designators. General Guidelines on Using Relationship Designators - Use relationship designators to indicate the specific nature of relationships between a resource and persons, families, and corporate bodies associated with that

[RDA-L] Question about relationship terms for contributors

2012-10-16 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
If we are cataloging a work, with a preface by someone other than the main author, RDA 20.2.1 says this is a relationship between a person and an expression. The examples in RDA 20 list this as "Writer of Added Commentary, Etc." In Appendix I.3, "Relationship Designators for Persons, Families,