Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates

2019-04-11 Thread Jose Manuel Gally
ose Manuel Gally , RDKIT mailing list *Subject: *Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates Hello Lukas, I am also struggling with 2D coordinate generation quite a long time as well as what criteria to use for choosing the most appropriate. Therefore, I would be

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates

2019-04-10 Thread Lukas Pravda
Evangelidis Date: Tuesday, 9 April 2019 at 15:43 To: Lukas Pravda Cc: Jose Manuel Gally , RDKIT mailing list Subject: Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates Hello Lukas, I am also struggling with 2D coordinate generation quite a long time as well as what

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates

2019-04-09 Thread Peter S. Shenkin
When I was at Schrödinger, I wrote a simple program to find bad 2D structures. I no longer have access to the code, but I computed two things: 1. Number of bond lengths deviating from the median bond length (MBL) by 50% or more (i.e., <0.5*MBL or >2*MBL) 2. Number of bond crossings The overall sc

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates

2019-04-09 Thread Jose Manuel Gally
Dear Lukas, Greg, Nic and Thomas, thank you for your feedback! I suspected that I would have to combine several methods, but I have to admit I'm still unsure how to deal with this. Therefore I (and certainly many others!)  would be really interested if you could share some code, Lukas. Che

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates

2019-04-09 Thread Thomas Evangelidis
Hello Lukas, I am also struggling with 2D coordinate generation quite a long time as well as what criteria to use for choosing the most appropriate. Therefore, I would be very interest to use your code for 2D coordinate selection. With best regards, Thomas PS: very nice notebook Jose. I also wan

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates

2019-04-09 Thread Greg Landrum
Here's a reply from Nic Zonta, the coordgen author: As for suggestions, I’d say that the strength of coordgen at the moment is in macrocycles handling, so if for instance E/Z stereo in a macrocycle is important I’d say that’s a good idea, and the weak point is intrinsically 3d systems and in perfo

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates

2019-04-09 Thread Lukas Pravda
Hi Jose, As you have shown there is no single method which would be perfect for everything. If you don’t care that much about speed, the possible solution could be to compute coordinates with all three approaches and then simply select the best conformer based on some criteria. The solution I

[Rdkit-discuss] Which method to prefer for computing 2D coordinates

2019-04-09 Thread Jose Manuel Gally
Dear all, This might sound naive, but I want to compute 2D coordinates for a set of molecules. For now I am considering the 3 methods below [1]. I was wondering if there was any recommendation to use one method over another in some cases? For instance, very large rings are not displayed ro