[RE-wrenches] Concordes / desulphator / Lithium ion?

2010-02-13 Thread Conrad Geyser
A bit of a follow up on a thread of about three months ago where we had taken over an orphaned bank of Concorde 12V VRLA, 10 parallel banks of 4. Thanks for all the input on this! Efforts to revive via fixed amperage charging have not proven successful. These batteries had been sorely abused.

Re: [RE-wrenches] anti islanding?

2010-02-13 Thread Bill Brooks
August, Probably the best simple explanation is in "Connecting to the Grid", published by the Interstate Renewable Energy Council and the North Carolina Solar Center. It is in its 6th edition. I wrote the original version of the document over 15 years ago. Bill. Quote from Document: "Grid-tied

Re: [RE-wrenches] anti islanding?

2010-02-13 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi August I felt I was a little to cryptic in my answer, so here is a longer answer. The inverter always tries to increase the frequency if it is connected to a grid, it could never speed up all those billions of tons of rotating equipment, so the frequency stays the same. If two inverters se

Re: [RE-wrenches] Utility External Disconnect Switch

2010-02-13 Thread Dan Fink
Hello Joel -- Well, you can be assured that both NREL and IREC are on your side. They were very convincing about dropping UEDS requirements at this seminar. Funny how utilities can require UEDSs, but none of them have the procedures, personnel or infrastructure to actually *use* them. Imagin

Re: [RE-wrenches] tyco connector tool

2010-02-13 Thread David Brearley
Jay, You might want to consider a multi-purpose tool: http://solarprofessional.com/article/?file=SP2_3_pg20_TheWire_5&search= Best, David On 2/13/10 4:57 PM, "jay peltz" wrote: > I'm in the market for a Tyco connector tool . > > > (I already have the MC tool) > > Any recommendations ? >

[RE-wrenches] tyco connector tool

2010-02-13 Thread jay peltz
I'm in the market for a Tyco connector tool . (I already have the MC tool) Any recommendations ? thanks, jay peltz power ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-

Re: [RE-wrenches] Utility External Disconnect Switch

2010-02-13 Thread Joel Davidson
Hello Dan, Many of us have worked hard to eliminate the UEDS requirement. Unfortunately, each utility and building & planning jurisdiction will have to be convinced by local contractors. Some will have to be re-convinced when the next authority gets into power. Please, someone tell me that I a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Refractometer vs Hydrometer?

2010-02-13 Thread Warren Lauzon
I am inclined to agree with that. We are in the process of revising our recommendations on equalizing. It perhaps made sense to do so every month or so 20 years ago, but I am wondering if that really is a good idea with the current state of battery chargers and controllers. ...

Re: [RE-wrenches] Refractometer vs Hydrometer?

2010-02-13 Thread R Ray Walters
Sounds like: A) the batteries are getting old, and are not paralleled properly. B) The desulphators aren't that great. I have some pics of one that completely short circuited, melted, and caught on fire. I would never put those in, myself. C) I no longer recommend monthly EQing, but I think its a

[RE-wrenches] Refractometer vs Hydrometer?

2010-02-13 Thread Dana
We have retired the Hydrometer and now use only refractometer. We have used them for 4+ years now. Our clients that do their own battery maint. Are so impressed that we have sold quite a few to that crowd too. They are safer and less intrusive: you only use a drop of electrolyte. Faster to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Refractometer vs Hydrometer?

2010-02-13 Thread Warren Lauzon
Have any of us here ever heard of a "world renowned battery guru"? You have to wonder why, if they are world renowned, they have to do home shows. Refractometers have been used quite commonly in labs, but those are in the $500 an up range. Some pretty decent ones for home use are in the $75-$150

Re: [RE-wrenches] anti islanding?

2010-02-13 Thread boB Gudgel
--- On Sat, 2/13/10, August Goers wrote: From: August Goers Subject: [RE-wrenches] anti islanding? To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 10:29 AM Hi Wrenches, Does anyone know where I can go to read about general information on how grid tied inver anti islanding works? I

[RE-wrenches] Utility External Disconnect Switch

2010-02-13 Thread Dan Fink
Hello Wrenches -- Did anyone else here attend the online conference last week regarding UEDS , held by Solar ABCs? I would be very interested to hear your thoughts, as I am writing an article regarding this topic. Contact me off-list, or on-list if you think this is appropriate here and want

Re: [RE-wrenches] Refractometer vs Hydrometer?

2010-02-13 Thread dave
Dan, You are on the right track. I've been off the Desulphators for years because I had so many systems without them that were lasting years longer than predicted between battery swap outs. I don't know about refractometer vs hydrometer. I use and trust a "glass in glass" hydrometer. Are these

Re: [RE-wrenches] anti islanding?

2010-02-13 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi I hope you get an expert, but here is what I understand. Of course if the grid goes to zero it is easy to break under voltage. But if the grid has a motor particularly a synchronous motor, it can generate a sine wave, so the inverter always trys to increase the speed or frequency of the si

[RE-wrenches] anti islanding?

2010-02-13 Thread August Goers
Hi Wrenches, Does anyone know where I can go to read about general information on how grid tied inver anti islanding works? I'd like to be able to describe this in better detail to our tech-savvy clients. Thanks, August August Goers Luminalt Energy Corporation O: 415.564.7652 M: 415.559.15

Re: [RE-wrenches] Refractometer vs Hydrometer?

2010-02-13 Thread Bill Loesch
Dan, There are benefits and disadvantages to almost everything in this world. Are you aware that the optical refractometer _automatically_ compensates for temperature, something that I have not seen on any hydrometer? The amount of electrolyte required with the refractometer is negligible compa

[RE-wrenches] Refractometer vs Hydrometer?

2010-02-13 Thread dan
I'm confoosed.. . I got a call from an old client complaining that their trace meter was wacky... seems it always read  like 80% or something -- never reset?.. (48V -- 4 strings of UL16 -- 5 years old -- Off Grid). I asked about the last time they equalized, and they proudly reported that they hadn