[RE-wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread August Goers
Hi Off Grid Wrenches - I need to select a propane generator to provide a steady state load of approximately 8 kW for a offgrid Sunny Island system. The project is for an art studio and the loads are primarily all lights. I don't have much experience with generators so I thought I'd reach out and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread Philip Boutelle
August, SMA recently updated their SI firmware so it would better communicate with the electronic governors on Kohler generators. On two projects so far, this new firmware has proven not to work on Generac generators (now with their own electronic governors, even the small air-cooled units),

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread Nathan Jones
August, Most of the units around 8kw are lower quality units. Most are going to be 3600 rpm instead of 1800 rpm. I just saw an excellent writeup on gensets in a back issue of Home Power written by Alan Sindilar??? Sorry about the spelling, Alan. Excellent article. Perhaps someone knows the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread Darryl Thayer
a little off topic but I just connected a 1 kW generator (yamaha inverter) to a 2 kW solar and a Outback FX 3524 and a PVPowered 1100 with 1 kW AC coupled, it just plain worked.   no problems.  I do not know how well the other inverter generators work, but this is a case where when the batterys

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread R Ray Walters
Hi Daryl; DId you AC couple it to the Outback AC output? or did you use the AC in on the Outback? I liked the little 1 Kw Yamahas for battery charging, but they are so small that if any loads come on in the house, the pass through loads will trip the Yamaha's overload circuit, and quit

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread jay peltz
HI August, First you need to determine fuel type diesel or propane/natural gas next how much this will be used, and how long the fuel might sit. next, you should look at size, for 8kw continuous, 10-14kw is first estimate. fuel type and derating for altitude and temperature will help to

Re: [RE-wrenches] wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread john
Ray, I solved the problem of the small inverter/generators kicking out by just making the generator and an IOTA charger as a subsystem.. I find the best charger match for the small generator and hook up to the batteries. I started doing this with grid tie with backup systems as the GVFX

Re: [RE-wrenches] wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread R Ray Walters
I've used a separate charger before as well. The issue I had with the IOTA was that I couldn't install the wiring in conduit for NEC compliance. We recently set up a large grid tie system where we used the old SW inverters for generator charging only, and the new Outbacks did the inverting. It

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread Allan Sindelar
HP131, June/July 2009. Thank you for the compliment Contact me off list if you need a pdf copy.. Allan Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer NABCEP Certified