[RE-wrenches] Charging a HUP

2014-02-07 Thread bruce
Hi All,3 VFX 36482 FM 806.5 kw solar12 kw generatorPSX 240 on generator output and VFX stackingMate 3HUP 1690 ahSystem design considering 45 amp charge current from each VFX totaling 135 amps. (135 x ~55v = 7.42kw)  Potential charge current from 2 arrays and FM 80's, 90 - 100 amps. On a good day, r

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-07 Thread wirewiz
Take a look at Blue Sea www.bluesea.com Larry On Feb 7, 2014 8:30 PM, wrote: > Friends: > > > > I am reworking an installation with 3 Sunny Island inverters. The battery > leads have no disconnecting means or OCP. I have been looking for sensible > hardware to provide this and I have found so

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-07 Thread Brian Teitelbaum
William, Are those the older Sunny Island 4.2 or 5kW units, or the newer 4.5 or 6kW units? Is this single-phase or three phase? The SMA BATFUSE would work, but it is not available in the US. It's not Code compliant nor UL Listed. You could use the OutBack FW1000-DC, but you are going to have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-07 Thread August Goers
Hi William, You might try reaching out to Roy Dyngen of SMA - he is a good contact for these types of general questions. Email me off list if you would like his contact info. Is the SMA BATFUSE available in the US? Anyway, SMA has always recommended connecting the negative of the batteries to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-07 Thread Ray Walters
I'm working on something similar. I think the Flex 1000 is the only reasonable choice that can handle more than 2 of the large format DC breakers. Midnite has the more expensive MNBCB -1000 Battery Combiner box, but there just isn't enough documentation to figure out what it can and can't do

[RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-07 Thread william
Friends: I am reworking an installation with 3 Sunny Island inverters. The battery leads have no disconnecting means or OCP. I have been looking for sensible hardware to provide this and I have found some options. I am interested in any input on these or ideas I have not discovered. 1.

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-07 Thread August Goers
Hi All, Correction: Another Wrench member contacted me off-list and noticed that we have a class RK5 in one photo and a T in the other photo. This opens up the question of whether one or both are correct or incorrect. I think both are rated for 20k AIC for DC voltage but I'll have to look throug

Re: [RE-wrenches] (RE-wrenches) Solar Repair Puzzle

2014-02-07 Thread John Powell
Hello Wrenches, Here is a solar repair puzzle. I am debugging a faulty and now partially non-functional grid-tie job in Southern California installed by another (non-cooperative) contractor. One of two inverter's has failed (2 months post warranty) and I am trying to find a solution for the h

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Module Fire Ratings

2014-02-07 Thread Exeltech
David and Wrenches, With several recent mentions on the Wrench board pertaining to PV fire ratings, and AHJ interpretations of the 2014 NEC we're hearing on this issue, I'm concerned this is a volcano on the verge of eruption. I recently attended a large meeting of Texas AHJ/CBO officials where

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-07 Thread Ray Walters
I started using automotive SAE rated resettable circuit breakers like these: http://www.delcity.net/store/Hi!Amp-Surface-Mount-!-%3Cbr%3EManual-Reset-%28Switchable%29/p_193073 I'm only using these on smaller stand alone (non NEC) off grid systems, but they are sealed, and allow protection right a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Module fire ratings

2014-02-07 Thread Bill Brooks
Mark, You should know better than anyone else that you can't corner the sun market. If you read the reports you will find that your deepest fears are unfounded. Bill. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Fry

Re: [RE-wrenches] Tigo

2014-02-07 Thread Solar
I have them on my system at home and on a system at a local community college. I like the data available from the system. My system had shade issues so I like the idea of them with issues suck as mine. I mounted the gateway device in the attic bellow the array instead of outside at the array.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Module fire ratings

2014-02-07 Thread Mark Frye
So does this help understand why Sunrun bought REC and Snap n Rack? Going forward the only installable equipment will be provided by large groups that can afford to test and rate their own panel with specific racking systems that they also own? Mark On 2/7/2014 9:38 AM, David Brearley wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Module fire ratings

2014-02-07 Thread Mark Frye
Guess I am missing the thread. Does it even matter anymore what the rating of the modules is anymore? What is now operative is a rating of the combined module/mounting system? Mark On 2/7/2014 9:38 AM, David Brearley wrote: There are several SolarABCs reports that speak to this. For example:

Re: [RE-wrenches] conductor properties of PV wire

2014-02-07 Thread Bill Brooks
Kirk, There is no standard diameter for PV Wire so Chapter 9 table 1 must be used. By the way, Table 1 is the code and the table in Annex C are not officially the code. They are simply informational based on the standard nominal diameters of various conductors. Many conductors have non-standard

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Module fire ratings

2014-02-07 Thread David Brearley
There are several SolarABCs reports that speak to this. For example: http://bit.ly/1bD8wM7 The complete list of reports is found here: http://www.solarabcs.org/current-issues/fire_class_rating.html David Brearley Senior Technical Editor, SolarPro magazine NABCEP Certified PV Installation Profes

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-07 Thread Dan Fink
Does anyone have any elegant solutions to this? It's really time consuming and ugly to run big parallel battery string wires *out* of the battery enclosure to class T fuses, then back into the battery box. It looks very ugly and DIY, and in conduit adds a few hundred to the install cost just for la

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-07 Thread Jerry Shafer
I look at batteries the same way as modules each string gets it own protection, its good for trouble shootings and for safety. we use the magnum Energy Class T fuse and holder, its cheap and works very well. If you have ever seen a short of a battery bank you would always install fuses right there

[RE-wrenches] conductor properties of PV wire

2014-02-07 Thread Kirk Herander
Are these listed in the 2014 code (diameter, ampacities, etc)? I don't see them in the usual Ch. 9 or 310.15 tables. Am I missing it? Kirk Herander VT Solar, LLC dba Vermont Solar Engineering NABCEPTM Certified Inaugural Certificant NYSERDA-eligible Installer VT RE Incentive Program Partne

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator stumpage

2014-02-07 Thread Tump
I just looked at the ONAN RV propane and it states that IT IS carb cert. I will usually install the Command Mobil units. On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:15 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: > hey wrenches, > > im working on a design for an offgrid camp and am stumped at my least > favorite issue...

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator stumpage

2014-02-07 Thread jay peltz
Hi Todd While I can't help on the genny side The radian has always had genny support and the new magnum RE version does as well Jay Peltz Power > On Feb 6, 2014, at 8:15 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: > > hey wrenches, > > im working on a design for an offgrid camp and am stumped a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Module fire ratings

2014-02-07 Thread Bill Loesch
Hi David, Can you elaborate on the mounting system(s?) that would minimize fire propagation? TIA, Bill Loesch Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar 314 631 1094 On 06-Feb-14 1:11 PM, David Brearley wrote: William, There are few Class A fire-rated PV modules on the market today: http://www.trinasol

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator stumpage

2014-02-07 Thread Dan Fink
Magnum has excellent generator support. Wish I could help you with CARB. Please let us all know when/if you find something. Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 On T

Re: [RE-wrenches] Subject: Re: Best Ground Racking?

2014-02-07 Thread Glenn Burt
I second the value of the 'lipstick' anti-seize from Locktite. Significantly less mess. Glenn From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Allan Sindelar Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 9:44 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re

Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteryless Backup

2014-02-07 Thread Glenn Burt
Home Power recently (latest issue) did an article that had a write up on this unit - you may want to look there as well for comments and info. -Glenn -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of All Sola

Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteryless Backup

2014-02-07 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Secure Power Supply on the SMA SB-X000-TL-US. We did one recently. Interesting concept. If you have 5000+ watts on a 5000W inverter with a 1500W SPS, you should have a pretty good window each day where a good portion of the 1500W is available. I wouldn't rely on it for more critical loads like ref