Re: [RE-wrenches] Fried Classic150?

2016-05-31 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Aaron, there may or may not be an explanation for WHY this happened. We really love it when there is one though. But being electronics and especially power electronics, it can go up without rhyme or reason even though lots have gone into catching failures before shipping units. Four to eig

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fried Classic150?

2016-05-31 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Yes, the 9V is because of the auxiliary power supply that powers everything inside. Not just the Classic of course. Lots of voltages and various power levels required to run these things. And charcoal inside a Classic refurb ! Hmmm... You can be sure... There WILL be spankings ! bo

Re: [RE-wrenches] closets and working space

2016-05-31 Thread Benn Kilburn
I dont recall the specific rule off the top of my head, but I'm sure Canadian Electrical Code says that panelboards are specifically not allowed to be installed in closets. Benn Kilburn SkyFire Energy Inc. 780-906-7807 > On May 30, 2016, at 6:08 PM, AE Solar wrote: > > Hey Wrenches, > We'

[RE-wrenches] Shurflo pump

2016-05-31 Thread Drake
Hello Wrenches, A couple years back we installed a Shurflo 9325-043-101 water pump. It runs array direct. After installation, it worked fine. Since then, it has not been used. The client tried to operate it recently,and it didn't work. A red light is showing in the controller. How well do

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fried Classic150?

2016-05-31 Thread Jay
Dan from Exeltech gave a really good explanation of how an inverter can actually start using power ( not loads) at a voltage well below the LBCO. It could also be a bad battery. Jay Peltz power. > On May 30, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Aaron Mandelkorn wrote: > > The more I think about this the

Re: [RE-wrenches] closets and working space

2016-05-31 Thread August Goers
Hi Adam, Check out “NEC 240.24(D) Not in Vicinity of Easily Ignitible Material. Overcurrent devices shall not be located in the vicinity of easily ignitable material, such as in clothes closets.” -August Luminalt *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On B

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fried Classic150?

2016-05-31 Thread Kevin Pegg
Hi Aaron, A customer of mine had a very similar situation happen couple years ago, except with the added fun of frozen batteries, split open and a resulting mess. (system was installed by others without a proper battery box / spill containment). This fault was traced back to a failed MX60 cont

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shurflo pump

2016-05-31 Thread Kevin Pegg
Hi Drake, We have a lot of these pumps in the field, operating without issue for many years, though they are generally operating on some sort of regular basis. But lots of customers with seasonal situations that may have the pump idle for 10 months a year. I would suggest applying 12/24VDC bat

[RE-wrenches] Metal Battery Box

2016-05-31 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Hi All, We have a local inspector who is asking us to use metal battery boxes instead of plastic. Ideally something that is UL-listed if that even exists, but we were able to push back on that. Does anyone have any recommendations for a metal battery box that will hold 8 or 16 L16 FLA batteries?

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fried Classic150?

2016-05-31 Thread Aaron Mandelkorn
Thank you everyone for your input. I am quite sure this controller was just doing what it was supposed to do. The inverter disconnected from low voltage and the solar modules were covered with snow for months. The classic was trying to reconnect all this time and I believe acted as a load on the ba

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metal Battery Box

2016-05-31 Thread Ken Schaal
Corrected email address..message below On May 31, 2016 1:56 PM, "Ken Schaal" wrote: > For years we've used site built, cement board boxes. ..like Hardy board or > Durock. > For insulated box, use EPS foam and line with cement board. > Ken Schaal Commonwealthsolar.com > Hi All, > > We have a local

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metal Battery Box

2016-05-31 Thread August Goers
Hi Dave, We’re used Midnite’s battery enclosures with good success: http://www.midnitesolar.com/products.php?productCat_ID=12&productCat_ID=12&productCatName=Battery See the MNBE-CL16 Best, August Luminalt *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metal Battery Box

2016-05-31 Thread Peter Giroux
Dave You can reach out to Franklin at Silent Indoor generator in Riviera beach Fl. Makes a simple but great rolling metal battery box with room for inverters, charge controllers and mates. peter - Original Message - From: Dave Tedeyan To: RE-wrenches Sent: Tuesday, May 31,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shurflo pump

2016-05-31 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Drake, I'll second Kevin's suggestion that it may be the waterproofing gland. I see this as a very weak part of this pumps design and won't ever use that pump again because of it. The aquatec SWP-4000 is a very similar pump. Pump manufacturers should take responsibility for the water-proofing

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fried Classic150?

2016-05-31 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Aaron, lead acid batteries will "self discharge". Letting them sit for more than a couple of weeks may not be that good for them as they can sulfate without a good absorb charge cycle every once in a while at least for a couple of hours. The inverter and charge controller will always dra

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fried Classic150?

2016-05-31 Thread Aaron Mandelkorn
Thanks Bob. We are using agm batteries and everything should have been turned off including the battery box breakers before the customer left. We could deal with a few months of self discharge. The array was snow covered at max tilt due to it being on a hillside and not tall enough. Controller cyc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metal Battery Box

2016-05-31 Thread Benn Kilburn
Is this an electrical inspector? And is the inspector citing a specific code rule, as per his request? Unless he is enforcing a code rule I don't believe he has any authority to specify the battery box material. Unless he backs up his request with a specific rule then you could respectfully de

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shurflo pump

2016-05-31 Thread Allan Sindelar
Mac, My experience is similar but slightly different. I have worked with the Shurflo 9300 for nearly twenty years. I have closely followed the mfgr's directions - even the temporary wrap of tape - and as far as I can recall have had maybe one failure due to water penetration at the cable gland