Some two-wire pumps have integral start capacitors and others, Franklin and
Gould comes to mind, do not. I’d be looking at start up current duration. If by
chance the pump motor is without a capacitor and the current remains high for
more than a second or two, it’s most likely structural as
Allan - my understanding is that with a 2-wire pump, the start capacitor is
integrated into the pump housing, underwater. I've never dealt with a
2-wire pump eithermy experience has been with start capacitors in
3-wire pumps being located conveniently above ground in the pump control
Have you checked the condition of the batteries. Unless the L-16s are
Rolls or East Penn, it might be about time for some cells to be
going bad.
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Dan,
I have never had to work with a two-wire pump, so I'm on shaky ground
here, but I refer back to what I learned years ago from Windy. The third
wire in a three-wire pump carries the starting surge from the capacitor.
A two-wire pump lacks this, and thus gets its entire surge-under-load
Dan,
Have you measured start up current?
> On Dec 10, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Drake
> wrote:
>
> The usual wire I see running to most pumps is #10 UF cable. A 450 foot run
> might create too much voltage drop. Maybe a buck boost transformer would
> help.
>
>
The usual wire I see running to most pumps is #10
UF cable. A 450 foot run might create too much
voltage drop. Maybe a buck boost transformer would help.
Drake
At 12:11 PM 12/10/2016, you wrote:
Hi Bob; I checked the connections for corrosion,
and the wire size looks like "the usual" for up
Michael; Battery bank voltage at 75% SOC is around 24.7v, so it's in the
ballpark and the battery bank has only about 3 years on it (8 x L-16) and
not much abuse.
Dan Fink
Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
IREC Certified Instructor™ for:
~ PV Installation
What is the battery voltage when the client says that SOC is %75?
VFD driven pumps are three phase. There are single phase “soft start”
controllers for pumps and motors designed for that application, but not for a
two wire fed submersible pump. The pump, for mechanical reasons, not just
Hi Bob; I checked the connections for corrosion, and the wire size looks
like "the usual" for up here in this area, it's only about 100 feet and the
usual well depth around here is 350 ft. Running stouter wire might be an
option to consider...but that's a lot of digging. I'm just hoping VSD might
Don't know about the variable speed but are the wires feeding the pump large
enough for the distance?
Sounds like it might be voltage starved because of a high resistance / bad
connection or a long wire run and the need for a larger wire ?
Just a thought,
Bob Ellison
> On Dec 10, 2016, at
Esteemed Wrenches;
I have a client in a very remote mountain location who is having trouble
with his inverter starting his well pump when battery state of charge is
below 75%. 24v system, Magnum inverter.
It's a 2-wire pump, unknown age, model, horsepower, or well depth. It has
always given him
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