[RE-wrenches] More GFI tripping problems

2020-01-21 Thread William Miller
Colleagues: Not too long ago we finished a large off-grid residential power system installation. It has a three-stack Radian 8048A with three FM80s and about 3,000 AH of battery. The home has all the bells and whistles including VFD drive pool pumps and home automation. We have been experie

Re: [RE-wrenches] More GFI tripping problems

2020-01-21 Thread Jerry Shafer
William Just so it is clear, the outback on the DC side GFI is .5 amp not a 1. amp Jerry On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 6:41 AM William Miller wrote: > Colleagues: > > > > Not too long ago we finished a large off-grid residential power system > installation. It has a three-stack Radian 8048A with three

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter Output Circuit OCPD Meltdown

2020-01-21 Thread August Goers
Hi Jason - It certainly appears that there was some sort of surge or short. We've had a few cases where microinverter branch circuit end termination caps were left off or fell off and shorted out during rain storms. You might want to double check that those are all in place. We've also had cases w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter Output Circuit OCPD Meltdown

2020-01-21 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Hi Jason, I have had an experience servicing other's arrays where they used PVC on the roof. The LB cover does not hold up over time and then water and snow were getting into the conduit, which came straight down into the top of that same kind of Eaton panel. Corrosion caused at least one breaker i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter Output Circuit OCPD Meltdown

2020-01-21 Thread Chris Sparadeo
Jason, Have you calculated your back-fed amapacity allowance to confirm it complies with the 120% busbar rule as per 705.12? Best, Chris On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:40 PM August Goers wrote: > Hi Jason - > > It certainly appears that there was some sort of surge or short. We've had > a few case

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter Output Circuit OCPD Meltdown

2020-01-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Yes - It's only 56A total inverter output rating on a 125A bus. Max string is 13A inverter output rating on 20A OCPD. On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Sparadeo wrote: > Jason, > > Have you calculated your back-fed amapacity allowance to confirm it > complies with the 120% busbar rule a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter Output Circuit OCPD Meltdown

2020-01-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I just remembered this... There was a tripping breaker here almost immediately after installation. We investigated the string and found no issues, including checking the termination cap (on all strings). We reset the breaker a few times and it would run for days without issue, then trip. Then we we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter Output Circuit OCPD Meltdown

2020-01-21 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches Cant tell anymore but l had a buss failure due to water getting on buss and pealing the tin off the buss and the aluminum base will light up real quick. Jerry On Tue, Jan 21, 2020, 9:10 AM Jason Szumlanski < ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote: > (System installed by another contrac

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter Output Circuit OCPD Meltdown

2020-01-21 Thread Ray
Almost every meltdown I've looked at was not due to lightning, but heat from a high resistance connection.  A lug not torqued can cause surrounding plastic to melt.  If the wrong breakers are used with the buss bar, they might snap on and work, but not be able to take the current over time.  Co