Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches, William Agree the push in connectors leave alot to be desired, however l have had no issue testing voltage at the connector in SMA. The industry is making installation of solar and for that matter most construction to easy and screw in lugs require more time and skill. Jerry NABCEP PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
I am with you William ! I also know that alot of rookies apply torque quickly. Torque needs to be slowly applied up to the rating. This allows the wire to take shape and not loosen up the connection later. Probably one of the biggest sources of connection failures is a loose connection that was

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread William Miller
Friends: Call me old fashioned, but I cannot get any confidence on the Wago connector. It seems somewhat akin to the back-wire mechanism on a 15A receptacle. This connection relies on a spring that is subject to reduction in force when it gets hot. We have seen many of the back-wire

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and AC coupling on a Sol-Ark

2021-05-07 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Thanks! I thought this was for Offgrid and that was my mistake. Will it run a 15A table saw without losing power, or was that just too much expertise? I will wait 3 years on anything that is suppose to replace what I already use. I have a low opinion of the all in one for Offgrid anyways.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and AC coupling on a Sol-Ark

2021-05-07 Thread Jeff Clearwater
Dave A. - Sol-Arks'"GEN" breaker can be used for 1 of 3 operations only - Generator, AC Coupling OR Smart Load (Load Shedding)  So when you are grid-interactive (which takes up your GRID breaker) and you have PV and a Generator - the way to go is to have no AC Coupling - put the Grid and Gen

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread Dan Fink
Jason; From the Wago 221 data sheet, it's listed to UL 486C, 600V, 30A, Use Group C (industrial) . I have a copy of UL486C, and voltage is just specified for dielectric testing. That standard specifies tests with AC, because it is easier (and cheaper) to generate and ramp up compared to DC, and DC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and AC coupling on a Sol-Ark

2021-05-07 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
I do not know much about Sol-Arc, but one can AC couple and DC couple with a Radian or XW. The genset is on the genset input where it belongs. For Offgrid AC coupling is just another way to damage a battery or genset that does not need to be there. I suppose in a really large microgrid with

[RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread Jason Szumlanski
In another thread these connectors were discussed recently. There was a question regarding the suitability for DC circuits. I don't think we came up with any answers or consensus on that. I see the connectors are UL listed to the 486C standard. I can't determine whether that is applicable to AC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and AC coupling on a Sol-Ark

2021-05-07 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I like the idea of some small amount of AC Coupled PV for off-grid systems when there is a known consistent daytime load. Around here the worst case scenario involves afternoon air conditioning in summer, so some WSW-facing AC coupled PV is an efficient way to cover that load and go into darkness

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and AC coupling on a Sol-Ark

2021-05-07 Thread Dave Tedeyan
I would certainly agree with you all that AC coupled for off-grid is not the best design choice. But just for clarification, this is a grid-tied system where there is already an Enphase M215 system and a whole house generator set up. Cheers, Dave On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 11:10 AM Jerry Shafer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and AC coupling on a Sol-Ark

2021-05-07 Thread Jerry Shafer
I have to agree with Dave on this, complex and off grid generally are not good together, l sugest backing up and you might consider a redesign, dump enphase, go directly in to the inverter DC side, now a gen set back up will work. Your spending more time and effort going in a bad direction. AC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wrench Membership Dues

2021-05-07 Thread Jeff Clearwater
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