Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Jerry Shafer
Bad switch On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 5:44 PM Jason Szumlanski < ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote: > See attached image. Notice the discoloration on the top of the left fuse. > It's always the same thing, same place. > > Jason > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 8:30 PM Jason Szumlanski < >

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I should also mention that it has nothing to do with ambient heat. This has occured in all seasons and with disconnects in direct sunlight on a south wall and disconnects in air conditioned garages. It's just a garbage product. We switched to Square D for 60A D222NRB fusible disconnects and are

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Jason Szumlanski
It's the disconnect. We had dozens of this subpar disconnect design fail on Enphase systems. The 2 Pole has the same issue. GE gave us some nonsense answer that it's General Duty and not designed for continuous high power. Even 40A combined Enphase systems will blow a 60A fuse. What you will

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Jerry Shafer
I have had wire issues also but to take a month l would be surprised. If it does it in the early Am the inverter is acting up. GF or ArcFault should only be on the DC side On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 3:50 PM Dave Tedeyan wrote: > The fuses are Ferraz Shawmut Trionic TR60R. 60A, 250V. I looked them up

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strange Enphase IQ7A Failure Issue

2021-11-01 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Ah, tech support's dreaded "blaming it on the comms." Enphase sent me down that rabbit hole for a few hours of wasted time. Yes, this site has terrible interference issues, but that doesn't stop the micros from eventually getting good comms and reporting data regularly, if not slightly delayed.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strange Enphase IQ7A Failure Issue

2021-11-01 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I considered the AC voltage but it's a stable 245V or so. Enphase couldn't see anything wrong with AC voltage on their end. I suggested a grid profile change, but they didn't see that as a necessary diagnostic step. On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 6:56 PM Dave Tedeyan wrote: > Hi Jason, > I recently

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strange Enphase IQ7A Failure Issue

2021-11-01 Thread Jason Szumlanski
It's not the modules. Mission Solar 420s. I have swapped panels between working and non-working micros to eliminate this possibility. On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 7:04 PM Jerry Shafer wrote: > It may be the modules not the inverters, in the past with good comms but > little to no production l had blown

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strange Enphase IQ7A Failure Issue

2021-11-01 Thread Jerry Shafer
It may be the modules not the inverters, in the past with good comms but little to no production l had blown diode bridges, actually melted the plastic box and exposed the straps that were connected to the jboxes. What modules did you use? Can you view them up close Jerry On Mon, Nov 1, 2021,

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Howie Michaelson
I would think that if there is an internet connection that a call to tech support would make things quicker, since they have access to internal error codes which usually give a pretty good indication of what the problem is, or at least usually help direct where your troubleshooting efforts are

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread August Goers
I would definitely check the insulation on the AC-side wiring as Lloyd mentioned. Sometimes small faults don't show up until there is moisture in the air (or conduit) or until max current conditions. As long as you have time delay fuses property sized, it would be rare for them to blow more than

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strange Enphase IQ7A Failure Issue

2021-11-01 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Hi Jason, I recently did a microinverter swap of the old D380's to 54 of the IQ7 190's. Once it was commissioned I started seeing random MI's drop out, but not always the same ones. I am pretty sure that this was due to overvoltage. I measured the line voltage at 255v with the system turned off.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strange Enphase IQ7A Failure Issue

2021-11-01 Thread jay
HI Jason, I had a neighbor replace his old units under the exchange program. less than 1 month later 1 appeared to die. Tech support said without hesitation it was the panel that died. I got called in and the unit was producing power but comm’s were out. These were the 190’s. More

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Dave Tedeyan
The fuses are Ferraz Shawmut Trionic TR60R. 60A, 250V. I looked them up to find that they are time delay, RK5 type. I would imagine that there is monitoring, but not being my installation, I don't have access to it. That's a good idea though to get access to see when this is happening. I am also

[RE-wrenches] Strange Enphase IQ7A Failure Issue

2021-11-01 Thread Jason Szumlanski
We have a site with 34 microinverters at two orientations. It's a couple of months old. After about a month a couple of microinverters started acting up and dropping power production for no apparent reason, then finally started throwing Device Produced No Power issues and totally sopped producing

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Jerry Shafer
Does this system have monitoring, what time of day is this happening, the monitoring site should show output at time of failure, what leg is tripping both or one side? You may want to look at the fuses they are using, rapid blow, slow blow, rated for the duty these are being used for. You can also

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread jay
HI Dave, Which exact fuses do they have installed? I’m guessing they are blowing due to not being constant load rated fuses and summer higher temps. jay peltz power > On Nov 1, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Dave Tedeyan wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am servicing a system that keeps blowing fuses on the

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Lloyd Hoffstatter
Dave, My first thought would be a small nick in wire insulation going to ground, causing the fuse to fail over time. We had a similar situation with a much larger system where the culprit was hard to notice… Best regards, Lloyd Lloyd Hoffstatter Sunstruck Consulting Sent from

[RE-wrenches] SolarEdge inverter blowing fuses

2021-11-01 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Hi All, I am servicing a system that keeps blowing fuses on the AC side, although it appears that everything is sized correctly. It is a SolarEdge SE11400A-US inverter. Max continuous output current is 47.5A x 1.25 = 59.4A. There is a GE TG3222R 60A AC disconnect, and it is wired up with #6

Re: [RE-wrenches] Max charge for lithium batteries

2021-11-01 Thread Chris Mason
You can absolutely charge to 100% and you can discharge to 100%. Lithium is in another world compared to Lead Acid. You don't see LA cars driving around. But you shouldn't leave Lithium at 100% for months on end, it can be detrimental. That's not likely to be an issue for solar systems. Your

[RE-wrenches] Disconnecting the negative lead on off-grip PV circuits. Battery disconnnects

2021-11-01 Thread William Miller
Friends: I recently studied the implications of replacing a negative grounded grid-interactive inverter with transformerless inverter or inverters. I had noticed language in 690.9(C)Informational note that indicates only the positive PV lead needs to be disconnected. August Goers kindly

Re: [RE-wrenches] Max charge for lithium batteries

2021-11-01 Thread frenergy
Hey Folks,             From the SimpliPHI/Outback integration guide download, using an Outback (I assume any brand of) charge controller (EG: FM80, FM60, FM100), their chart shows absorbtion voltage at 56.4 for 51.2 nom PHI batteries with time set at 6 minutes, page 18.  If using the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Max charge for lithium batteries

2021-11-01 Thread Chris Mason
There's no benefit to charging to 100%. If the charging parameters are set up correctly, you'll never really get to 100%. If you look at most prismatic cells, the absolutely maximum voltage is 3.65V. My systems are set up to charge to 3.4V or 54.4V. I take that as 100%. On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at