Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-03-04 Thread Jerry Shafer
Ray look at the Cummins gen-sets have had no issues and non have blown up, no voltage issues. Jerry On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 12:41 PM Ray wrote: > Some of the issues have been Generac not providing a simple wiring > schematic, nor simply labeling the 2 start wires. 2nd is requiring either > inter

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-03-04 Thread Michael Morningstar
That Isuzu-Stamford-Deap Sea mating has been time tested and proven by other manufactures. Growers run them nearly continuously for years and years. Perfect for off-grid. > On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Matthew Sherald wrote: > > I’ve enjoyed following this thread. Just today a customer with a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-03-04 Thread Matthew Sherald
I’ve enjoyed following this thread. Just today a customer with a Generac wrote to update me on a long anticipated control board replacement that ended with the discovery of a shot bearing and the need for more work/downtime. I have another customer (whom I inherited) who has had a stationary Wi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-03-04 Thread Jim Duncan
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-03-03 Thread Chris Mason
Ray, Let me try to address some of those issues for you. 1) You can get the activation code before you take it to site, you just need the serial number. Generac has a good warranty policy but they need to know where the generator is and when it is installed to be able to provide that. 2) An electri

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-28 Thread Ray
Some of the issues have been Generac not providing a simple wiring schematic, nor simply labeling the 2 start wires.  2nd is requiring either internet connection or a call in to get the start code.  Both have been very problematic in remote locations with no phone service.  Totally unnecessary.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-28 Thread Jay
2 other small options are, marine generators and RV/truck APU generators. Jay Peltz power. > On Feb 28, 2020, at 7:05 AM, Chris Mason wrote: > >  > Generac also has a nice 15KW Diesel Protector unit, that'll keep the lights > on very nicely, is relatively inexpensive and I haven't heard any

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-28 Thread Chris Mason
Generac also has a nice 15KW Diesel Protector unit, that'll keep the lights on very nicely, is relatively inexpensive and I haven't heard any complaints about them failing. We had one Protector Diesel with a failed fuel pump solenoid but I changed it out under warranty and there hasn't been any oth

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-28 Thread Chris Mason
395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 > 805-438-5600 > www.millersolar.com > CA Lic. 773985 > > -Original Message- > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of Ray > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:26 PM > To: RE-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-28 Thread Chris Mason
Ray, I'm a Generac dealer. Why are you having support problems? Generac has a large dealer network, if the unit is under warranty you should have no problem getting it fixed. Did you buy through a dealer and have them install it? Why are the services expensive? What failures are you seeing? There

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Jeff Clearwater
onda route, if they get a good unit it's likely to last for a while, but if it's a dud out of the box good luck getting it resolved. Kevin -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: February-27-20 2:26 PM To:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Kevin Pegg
Kevin -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: February-27-20 2:26 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators? I know we have covered this before, but I just continue to be disappointed with the Gene

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Maverick Brown
Ray Your list mirrors mine. Never. Ever. Ever. Buy or believe you’ll get support of any kind from Generac. I fell for the lure of the ECO GEN and it ate itself one night while helping our off grid home get through a hot cloudy summer day. For my off grid experience since 2005, I would vote f

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Glenn Burt
Atascadero, CA 93422 805-438-5600 www.millersolar.com CA Lic. 773985 -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:26 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators? I know we ha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread William Miller
www.millersolar.com CA Lic. 773985 -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:26 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators? I know we have covered this before, but I just

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Michael Morningstar
It’s a race to the bottom! At least in the manufacture’s residential offerings. Lawn mower engines. Kohler, Cummins/Onan, and Generac still produce high quality industrial machines. John Deere, Cummins, Volvo, and Rolls Royce engines. 125kva to megawatts. DynaGen controllers are good. I have se

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Ray
Well, that's certainly a glowing (hot) review for Kohler. Amazing that with as much progress as we've made with solar, MPPT controllers, and Li+ batteries, the industry has gone backwards significantly in the generator department.  Kohler used to make a wonderful little water cooled 1800 rpm mo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Lou Russo
We recommend two setups: 1. Any correctly sized Honda with no auto-start. I have tried unsuccessfully to get the auto-start (not remote start) to be 90% reliable. Client can haul it to town if they need. Honda seems to make a pretty reliable gasoline generator. This is how I run my off-grid home a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Amanda Potter
We Installed a Kohler 14RES, L.P. & the crank-case breather froze ( the generator was on auto & was in a shelter), and the dip-stick blew out & the generator had just started & set the engine on fire. Oil everywhere. Luckily a worker saw the flames, (this was new Off-Grid construction), and was

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Jerry Shafer
Ray Look at Cummins, easy programming, it will require a battery charger for the starter, two wire auto start and great service Jerry On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 2:25 PM Ray wrote: > I know we have covered this before, but I just continue to be > disappointed with the Generac Ecogen. Very high failur

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Mac Lewis
We have had pretty good luck with the 14 kW Kohler which has an off-grid warranty. Its not perfect but it seems solid. We have had a few people with near 5000 hours on them. The controller is a bit of an energy hog but its the best we've found that weighs all of these issues. On Thu, Feb 27, 20

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
The Honda EU7000i also has it's own remote start kit that plugs into a socket on the genset. I think it has a 140 foot cable. About as easy to install as there is. Incredible life and reliability. We do not need a genset here but many of my clients use these. Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go whe

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Maynard
Avoid Onan as well. Now a Cummins company with un-affordable field service only policy. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:25 PM Ray wrote: > I know we have covered this before, but I just continue to be > disappointed with the Generac Ecogen. Very high failure rate, and > support is poor. Service req

Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Michael Morningstar
For small propane generators: Honda eu7000i w/propane conversion from GenConnex and 2 wire start kit from GenLine. I’ve installed a couple dozen. 4-8k hours life expectancy. Correct jet is a must for altitudes over 5.5k. Alternators are a bit weak so I install a NOKO that’s plugged into the gene

[RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

2020-02-27 Thread Ray
I know we have covered this before, but I just continue to be disappointed with the Generac Ecogen.  Very high failure rate, and support is poor.  Service requires expensive on site service. Also the no load AC draw and programming setup is just not off grid ready at all.  I'm still not seeing