Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread Mac Lewis
Here is a paper on AC coupling the magnum. http://www.wholesalesolar.com/pdf.folder/inverter%20pdf%20folder/MagnumACcoupling.pdf The key is to connect the AC input terminals on the Magnum to the main panel (or a panel closer to the utility feed) and then feed the utility interactive inverter to a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread Mac Lewis
Here is a paper on AC coupling the magnum. http://www.wholesalesolar.com/pdf.folder/inverter%20pdf%20folder/MagnumACcoupling.pdf The key is to connect the AC input terminals on the Magnum to the main panel (or a panel closer to the utility feed) and then feed the utility interactive inverter to a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Kelly; I agree the Radian system is appealing. Its basically uses a circuit breaker that can be controlled like a relay as well, and just disconnects the GT inverter. I'm going to offer a brief table of what I've found for my choices: Brand Control Method Pros

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread Ryan
Ray You did not mention the XW, it frequency dithers so it is a pretty straight forward setup. It also comes in 4, 4.5 and 6KW Ryan On 7/31/2013 2:04 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Hi Kelly; I agree the Radian system

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread Corey Shalanski
Mac, We have installed about ten AC coupled Magnum systems over the past year. Overcharge protection is accomplished by frequency shift, but Magnum recommends an auxiliary form of battery management. The cheapest way to do this is to program the relay driver on the Magnum advanced remote control

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
Right, Corey. All critical loads and their wiring aside, the GT only inverter cannot put out more current than the pass through relay in the BB inverter is rated for. For example, you would not want to use a 100 kW PV-GT only inverter on the AC output of a 4 kW BB inverter. When grid is up,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread Ray Walters
Corey; Would you mind sharing what relay didn't work, and which ones did, along with inverter output current? Since the relays will be running for hours at inverter rated output, my thinking would be to oversize the relay by at least a factor of three. I might try Outback's relay/ breaker

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread Steve Higgins
: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:55 PM To: RE-wrenches Reply To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower? Corey; Would you mind sharing what relay didn't work, and which ones did, along with inverter output current? Since the relays will be running for hours at inverter

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-31 Thread jay peltz
Hi Corey, Did you mount the SS relays to a good heat sink with heat compound? They are quite sensitive to heat damage and also like a lot things optimistically rated. I use a 2X oversize ratio for SS relays if they are used very much at all or for longer periods of time. And I think you are

[RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-30 Thread Ray Walters
Hi All; I know AC coupled systems have been covered before, but I have a new issue: positive grounding. A customer with an existing 8kw Sunpower system wants to add backup. He was put off by the high cost the Sunny Island, so I was steering him towards a single Outback VFX coupled to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-30 Thread Ray Walters
The Outback rep got me some good info, and I'm liking the Radian with the Remote controlled breaker to control the GT inverter when the grid is out. I've heard of quite a few problems related to the Sunny Island frequency controlled system. My question is can off grid inverters like the Magnum

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-30 Thread Jay Peltz
Hi ray Magnum does have a way to do it Theirs is a bit different, but all the data is on their web site Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ray Walters r...@solarray.com wrote: The Outback rep got me some good info, and I'm liking the Radian with the Remote

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-30 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Jay; I saw their new MagnaSine Hybrid with load support. The way the load support works, sounds like it could work with a GT inverter, look at this little tid bit from their home page: The new MSH models add a Load Support feature, which allowsincoming AC to synchronize with the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback AC coupling Sunpower?

2013-07-30 Thread Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun Wind
Ray, The battery-based inverter in an AC-coupled system should not be grid-interactive. The grid passes through the BB inverter to the grid-direct inverter(s). The BB inverter is there to create a stable grid-like signal for the grid-direct inverters when the grid is not present, and to manage