Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-07 Thread R Ray Walters
: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:55 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter I don't see it in your comments. At least that wasn't clear. Anyway, in that case there is absolutely no reason to use the inverter ground clip. The whole purpose of the inverter

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-05 Thread Mark Frye
-8024 http://www.berkeleysolar.com/ www.berkeleysolar.com _ From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:51 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-05 Thread Bill Brooks
: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:08 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter I guess the thinking is that DC side of the Enphase is grounded and therefore a separately derived system requiring it's own system grounding. This is achieved by connecting the GEC

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Fafco Solar -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:48 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter All, While

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread August Goers
: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:48 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter All, While there is ambiguity in the 2008 NEC in 690.47(C

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread Mark Frye
Of Bill Brooks Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:48 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter All, While there is ambiguity in the 2008 NEC in 690.47(C) on the requirements for system grounding of PV systems, the 2011 NEC in 690.47(C) clarifies the intent

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread Bill Brooks
System grounding requirements. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Frye Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:51 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread William Miller
...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Frye Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:51 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter The interesting thing to me is the underlying assumption in the Code that a GEC is requried

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread Jason Szumlanski
at all? Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:58 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter Bill: Other

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread Mark Frye
: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:51 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter System grounding requirements. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Frye Sent

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread R Ray Walters
-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brooks Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:51 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter System grounding requirements. -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread Dana
I would like to remember us all back to 16-20 years ago when we were required to use a ground cable equal to the largest conductor in the system. This was typically sized by the inverter cable at 4/0 copper. I gotta say that was a really dumb rule. At that time we were to not create ground

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread Nick Soleil
ma...@berkeleysolar.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 10:53:46 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter Yes, but that comes from the assumption that the inverter constitutes a seperately derived system. But if the only purpose

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread Bill Brooks
-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:58 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter Bill: Other than complying just because this is a rule that has to be followed, is there any logical foundation to the requirement to provide

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-03 Thread Kirk Herander, VSE
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kirk Herander, VSE Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:07 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter My AHJ is making me ground the Enphase inverters AND use a separate equipment ground for modules

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-03 Thread Jason Szumlanski
:46 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter As an aside, why didn't you use approved WEEB's to bond the inverters to the rails? This eliminates the ground wire to each inverter. Simpler IMHO. I did. It is in my comments. Kirk Herander Vermont Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-03 Thread Bill Brooks
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:55 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter I don't see it in your comments. At least that wasn't clear. Anyway, in that case there is absolutely no reason to use the inverter ground clip. The whole purpose of the inverter- rail

[RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-02 Thread Kirk Herander, VSE
My AHJ is making me ground the Enphase inverters AND use a separate equipment ground for modules / mounting rails. The panel frames are grounded to mounting rails via WEEBS, rails are grounded together using WEEB lay-in lugs and copper wire, this ground wire makes its way to AC panel gnd bar,

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-02 Thread Jason Szumlanski
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kirk Herander, VSE Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 6:07 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter My AHJ is making me ground the Enphase inverters AND use a separate equipment ground for modules