[recoznet2] Pat Dodson:

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Here is an extract of an ABC item on what Pat Dodson had to say: "The former chair of the Reconciliation Council, Patrick Dodson, has condemned the resolution, saying it does little to advance reconcilitation. "When people pass away in our society we cry with them. We siddown and we cry with the

[recoznet2] Non-apology

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
>From what Howard is saying it is obvious he hasn't learnt anything at all. He still doesn't understand and is defending the 'well-meaning' and the present generation. Daryl Melham is right - this is a political deal. Trudy ABC News: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:32 AEST

[recoznet2] SMH - Motion not enough: Beazley

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Motion not enough: Beazley Source: SMH | Published: Thursday August 26 1:22:50 PM Opposition Leader Kim Beazley today said Prime Minister John Howard did not go far enough with his expression of deep and sincere regret to indigenous Australians. Mr Beazley moved

[recoznet2] AAP: Greens senator attacks PM over apology issue

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Greens senator attacks PM over apology issue Source: AAP | Published: Thursday August 26 10:35:26 AM Australian Greens Senator Bob Brown has accused Prime Minister John Howard of failing as a leader on the issue of an apology to the stolen generation. "He cannot

Re: [recoznet2] pm or PM?

1999-08-25 Thread Laurie Forde
This was Howard at his most insincere. A politician as experienced and professional as he is was unable to even fake interest in the subject of his speechAboriginal Australians.   I have never seen him speak with less conviction---nor has Peter Costello---he yawned the whole way through

[recoznet2] AAP: Stolen generations members dismiss Howard's apology [sic]

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Stolen generation [sic] members dismiss Howard's apology Source: AAP | Published: Thursday August 26 2:47:49 PM Members of the stolen generation today reacted angrily to Prime Minister John Howard's expression of regret in federal parliament, saying it did not go far eno

Re: [recoznet2] pm or PM?

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
My first impression is that this 'motion' has the same depth of sincerity as Howard's description of Michael Hutchins as 'a great Australian product' was an expression of condolence. There seems to be an unseemly haste about the whole thing. Could it be that Howard realises he is running out of

Re: [recoznet2] pm or PM?

1999-08-25 Thread Sandy Sanders
No, no, no. There's a huge gap between clause (f) and clause (g) in Howard's parliamentary motion. That's where the apology has to go. Regret is not apology. Even remorse, which would be a far better word than "regret", is not apology. This motion is just a shallow motherhood statement i

Re: [recoznet2] pm or PM?

1999-08-25 Thread Rod Hagen
At 12:24 AM 27/8/99, tim dunlop wrote: (extract from PM's motion) >(d) recognises the importance of understanding the shared history of >indigenous and non-indigenous Australians .; "Shared history" is an interesting phrase. Presumably it is meant to convey some sort of commonality. Some o

Re: [recoznet2] pm or PM?

1999-08-25 Thread Peter Tremain
> From: "tim dunlop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To:"RecOzNet2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [recoznet2] pm or PM? > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:24:13 - > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Just saw Howard deliver this motion and speech to the Parliament. I'm ve

[recoznet2] pm or PM?

1999-08-25 Thread tim dunlop
Just saw Howard deliver this motion and speech to the Parliament.  I'm very confused about the whole thing.  He seemed reasonably sincere and given what at is at stake - and given the apparent enthusiasm with which people like Lowitja O'Donahue are embracing his 'change of heart' - I feel in

[recoznet2] Joy Williams loses case

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Court rules against stolen generation woman in test case AAP -- A 56-year-old member of the stolen generation today lost her test court case against the state of New South Wales. In a 432-page judgment, Supreme Court judge Justice Alan Abadee found there was no common law duty of care imposed o

[recoznet2] Aden's maiden speech

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
http://search.aph.gov.au/search/ParlInfo.ASP?action=view&item=129&from=browse&path=Chamber/Senate+Hansard/1999/Spring/25+August+1999&items=146 Aden Ridgeway's maiden speech can be read at the above URL For anyone without web access, contact me for a copy. Trudy ---

[recoznet2] Letters to the editor at SMH

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
http://www.smh.com.au/news/9908/26/text/letters.html For letters on the 'apology' have a look at the above URL Trudy --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe f

[recoznet2] UN Press Release

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
The Australian Government is obviously intending to downplay and mislead public opinion on the recent decsion by CERD (Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination). The Australian Government considers: "The CERD decision was in line with what we had hoped for. Originally it was said

Re: [recoznet2] Another miscarriage of justice in NT

1999-08-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Hi Liam, Bruce got the group together. He is just leaving the NT and will be back in the Illawarra on Monday. I will pass your message on to the group and see what they think you could do while there. Trudy Liam wrote: > I'm gonna be in the NT around the 20th with school, anything I can do whi

Re: [recoznet2] Another miscarriage of justice in NT

1999-08-25 Thread Liam
I'm gonna be in the NT around the 20th with school, anything I can do while I'm there? I've written letters/emails/etc...I figure while I'm there I might as well get some work done, eh? I'm not sure how far north I'm going...probably only as far as Alice Springs.. is Bruce Reyburn running this ca