Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-11 Thread neil
Tim, Basically we seem to agree ... it just comes down to interpretation of words, which often appears to be the case on lists like this ... and the reason I usually do not get involved to any great extent. > Experience on this list shows how difficult it is to get through to even one > pe

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-10 Thread Ian Henderson
__ - Original Message - From: "tdunlop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2000 7:30 Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics > I enter this discussion tentatively, and with a hope to learn. It's > conf

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-10 Thread tdunlop
Neil, You make some really good points, ones I'm not really disagreeing with, just trying to nut out. Neil wrote: > >My own personal opinion is that only considering individuals as racist >does nothing to help or solve the whole racial problem. I don't see how we can deal with it except it

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-10 Thread neil
Tim wrote > Maybe. My suspicion is that such 'general' descriptions are meaningless and > we are better off applying terms like racism to specific individuals. My own personal opinion is that only considering individuals as racist does nothing to help or solve the whole racial problem. As

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-10 Thread Laurie Forde
te: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics >I enter this discussion tentatively, and with a hope to learn. It's >confusing to me on the whole. So... > >Laurie wrote: > >>I think that as a general description of "white Europe

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-10 Thread tdunlop
I enter this discussion tentatively, and with a hope to learn. It's confusing to me on the whole. So... Laurie wrote: >I think that as a general description of "white European society" the Mike >Carlton passage selected by Neil is accurate. Maybe. My suspicion is that such 'general' descrip

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-10 Thread Laurie Forde
-Original Message- From: Trudy & Rod Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics >Neil, > >I don't think it is wise to generalise like that. We wouldn&

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-10 Thread Jim Duffield
On 10 Apr 2000, at 9:38, Trudy & Rod Bray wrote: > Neil, > > I don't think it is wise to generalise like that. We wouldn't even be > having this debate if there weren't people of European descent who are > nothing like the description below. > > Trudy > > neil wrote: > > > > > Thin end of we

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-09 Thread Trudy & Rod Bray
Neil, I don't think it is wise to generalise like that. We wouldn't even be having this debate if there weren't people of European descent who are nothing like the description below. Trudy neil wrote: > > > Thin end of wedge politics > > > > By MIKE CARLTON > > > > > .

Re: [recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-09 Thread neil
> Thin end of wedge politics > > By MIKE CARLTON > > ... a miserly, mingy, minatory > bunch if ever there was. It has a head but no heart, a brain but no > soul. Without generosity of spirit, devoid of compassion, absorbed > in narrow political self-intere

[recoznet2] Thin edge of wedge politics

2000-04-08 Thread Trudy & Rod Bray
The Sydney Morning Herald [print edition] Saturday April 8, 2000 Thin end of wedge politics By MIKE CARLTON In a week of horrors, there was one shred of good news for the Government: with iron self-discipline, Peter Costello has learnt to control that Cheshire Cat grin which so irritates eve