Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-06 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: [...] Gnome and KDE look SO amatureish and unprofessional. Even XFCE which looked a lot like CDE has started to look like Gnome. CDE is the most professional desktop I've seen on linux, [...] Ahem. You *are* aware that this is

RE: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-06 Thread Wade Chandler
interface just more keyboard friendly. Wade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of T. Ribbrock Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 5:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OS Desktop Business Model? On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-06 Thread Matt Rowley
IMHO, putting Gnome and KDE toy desktops with Linux is a mistake in an effort to try and draw Windows users away from windows. Gnome and KDE look SO amatureish and unprofessional. Even XFCE which looked a lot like CDE has started to look like Gnome. CDE is the most professional desktop I've

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-06 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
The money would be made by offering services to companies like Dell, to help them differentiate their products from others. For example, helping Dell to make a Multimedia PC where the whole thing is oriented around doing Multimedia in Linux. Things like knowing what music composition programs to

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-05 Thread Kevin MacNeil
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:54:46PM -0700, bruce wrote: my $0.02 worth..and i don't normally follow this group/thread for linux to compete/succeed against windows/msoft on the desktop... there needs to be a rock solid office set of apps... for 20% of the price... then you would see msoft

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-05 Thread Jack Bowling
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:17:37AM -0400, Kevin MacNeil wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:54:46PM -0700, bruce wrote: my $0.02 worth..and i don't normally follow this group/thread for linux to compete/succeed against windows/msoft on the desktop... there needs to be a rock solid

OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto
Given that most of Microsoft's profit comes from the desktop, I'm wondering: if Linux, as I see it, is on its way to becoming a complete, competitive desktop system, would this money simply cease to flow? Is there any model at sight for profitable Desktop distros? It looks like RedHat has given

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:28:16PM -0300, Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto wrote: Given that most of Microsoft's profit comes from the desktop, I'm wondering: if Linux, as I see it, is on its way to becoming a complete, competitive desktop system, would this money simply cease to flow? Is there

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 17:36, Ed Wilts wrote: I believe that we will soon see Red Hat make a push back into the SOHO market with a new boxed product that will be very competitive against Windows (financially)... It would not surprise me to see a big push into other markets with this product

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
- Original Message - From: Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: Re: OS Desktop Business Model? On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:28:16PM -0300, Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto wrote: Given that most of Microsoft's profit comes

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: at a reasonable price and marketed correctly with Openoffice, they'll have a desktop that competes hands down with Windows. There's still one big difference ... windows is for weenies, and Linux is not. -- Hal Burgiss --

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Jeff Wimmer
So very true. JEFFREY WIMMER - Original Message - From: Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 5:55 PM Subject: Re: OS Desktop Business Model? On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: at a reasonable price

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto
Ed Wilts: What makes you think that Red Hat has given up on the desktop? There is the current RHEL WS line although I will agree that for the home user, this doesn't compete with Windows for pricing. Well, we all know now that the Red Hat Linux boxed set was not profitable.. It seems to me

Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread Bret Hughes
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 17:55, Hal Burgiss wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: at a reasonable price and marketed correctly with Openoffice, they'll have a desktop that competes hands down with Windows. There's still one big difference ... windows is for

RE: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-04 Thread bruce
: Saturday, October 04, 2003 7:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OS Desktop Business Model? On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 17:55, Hal Burgiss wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:49:46PM -0500, Jeff Wimmer wrote: at a reasonable price and marketed correctly with Openoffice, they'll have a desktop