Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-27 Thread Gould, James
James, My comments are embedded below with JG2. In summary, the concept of leveraging the domain pending delete period to cascade down to the child hosts and host to domain links (e.g., name servers), with the ability to rollback with a domain restore command, is interesting to investigate

Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-26 Thread James Mitchell
Thanks! Replies with a JM. On Jul 26, 2023, at 6:22 AM, Gould, James wrote:  James, I find your historic EPP server policies to be very interesting. I provide comments embedded with your points below with a “JG – “ prefix. -- JG James Gould Fellow Engineer jgo...@verisign.com

Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-26 Thread Gould, James
Peter, This moves beyond the protocol itself and into operational concerns of chosen policies. Based on the language in the EPP RFCs, the registry can choose various policies on which hosts require glue (e.g., all internal hosts, only in-bailiwick hosts), what pre-conditions need to be met to

Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-26 Thread Peter Thomassen
James, On 7/26/23 06:22, Gould, James wrote: * allow deletion of domains with linked subordinate hosts – there is no need to prevent this if the registrar can simply rename the subordinate hosts and free themselves of this restriction JG - [...]  I would not leave the lame delegations, so

Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-26 Thread Gould, James
James, I find your historic EPP server policies to be very interesting. I provide comments embedded with your points below with a “JG – “ prefix. -- JG [cid87442*image001.png@01D960C5.C631DA40] James Gould Fellow Engineer jgo...@verisign.com 703-948-3271 12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190

Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-25 Thread James Mitchell
That a registrar can change the delegation of a domain managed by another registrar, point it to anywhere (which led to this discussion), without the consent of the registrant. As noted, I allowed renaming, but restricted it to within the existing domain boundary – the registrant trusted

Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-25 Thread Peter Thomassen
Not being an EPP expert, it seems to me that if the below works (which it seems to have?), it addresses pretty much all concerns in a very reasonable way. Would there be any reasons for not making this the recommended practice? Peter On 7/25/23 14:39, James Mitchell wrote: Feedback my own

Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-25 Thread Q Misell
> Host rename always seemed a dangerous operation Why so? -- Any statements contained in this email are personal to the author and are not necessarily the statements of the company unless specifically stated. AS207960 Cyfyngedig, having a registered office at 13

Re: [regext] [Ext] [DNSOP] Best Practices for Managing Existing Delegations When Deleting a Domain or Host

2023-07-25 Thread James Mitchell
Feedback my own and not from IANA. If I recall correctly, the approach I took when building an EPP server several years ago was: * allow deletion of domains with linked subordinate hosts – there is no need to prevent this if the registrar can simply rename the subordinate hosts and free