Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-03 Thread Alexander Zarochentsev
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006 21:55, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello What kind of load did you run on reiser4 at that time? I just formatted a new 2GB Reiser4 FS, then I moved a whole ccache cache tree to this new FS (cache size was about

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Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-03 Thread Theodore Tso
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:55:57AM -0500, David Masover wrote: If I understand it right, the original Reiser4 model of file metadata is the file-as-directory stuff that caused such a furor the last big push for inclusion (search for Silent semantic changes in Reiser4): The furor was caused

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: [...] Are there any on the list who know of rpm's for Suse/Redhat/Mandrake that include reiser4? Suse excluded reiser4 from 10.1 because they want to keep the kernel cleaner than

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 10:55 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: [...] Are there any on the list who know of rpm's for Suse/Redhat/Mandrake that include reiser4? One more

Re: Solaris ZFS on Linux

2006-08-03 Thread Helge Hafting
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 07:20:25PM -0700, Wil Reichert wrote: On 8/2/06, Krzysztof Halasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMHO the best alternative for a situation like that is a storage controller with a battery-backed cache and a hunk of flash NVRAM for

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Hans Reiser
Marcel Hilzinger wrote: Am Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 10:55 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: [...] Are there any on the list who know of rpm's for

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
It's quite late for inclusion in the next Ubuntu release, but who knows. Maybe it is not, it's a playground, Mark would not hesitate to postpone Edgy's release if it requires polishing the whole thing due to edgy features. Could you contact him for us, and ask? It is more convincing when users

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Sander Sweers
On 03/08/06, Maciej Sołtysiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's quite late for inclusion in the next Ubuntu release, but who knows. Maybe it is not, it's a playground, Mark would not hesitate to postpone Edgy's release if it requires polishing the whole thing due to edgy features. Could you

Re: [nikita-3002]: assertion failed: carry_level_invariant(doing, CARRY_DOING)

2006-08-03 Thread Andrew James Wade
I've just had some warnings show up in my kernel log. I don't know if they're related to the troubles I've been having (I fscked after the last panic). reiser4[updatedb(32445)]: key_warning (fs/reiser4/plugin/file_plugin_common.c:513)[nikita-717]: WARNING: Error for inode 401698 (-2) for key:

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-03 Thread Matthias Andree
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, David Masover wrote: RAID deals with the case where a device fails. RAID 1 with 2 disks can in theory detect an internal inconsistency but cannot fix it. Still, if it does that, that should be enough. The scary part wasn't that there's an internal inconsistency, but

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-03 Thread Matthias Andree
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Ric Wheeler wrote: Mirroring a corrupt file system to a remote data center will mirror your corruption. Rolling back to a snapshot typically only happens when you notice a corruption which can go undetected for quite a while, so even that will benefit from having

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-03 Thread Matthias Andree
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Hans Reiser wrote: You will want to try our compression plugin, it has an ecc for every 64k What kind of forward error correction would that be, and how much and what failure patterns can it correct? URL suffices. -- Matthias Andree

Re: reiser4-2.6.18-rc2-mm1: possible circular locking dependency detected in txn_end

2006-08-03 Thread Laurent Riffard
Le 03.08.2006 08:09, Alexander Zarochentsev a écrit : On Tuesday 01 August 2006 01:29, Laurent Riffard wrote: Le 31.07.2006 21:55, Vladimir V. Saveliev a écrit : Hello What kind of load did you run on reiser4 at that time? I just formatted a new 2GB Reiser4 FS, then I moved a whole ccache

Re: [nikita-3002]: assertion failed: carry_level_invariant(doing, CARRY_DOING)

2006-08-03 Thread Alexander Zarochentsev
Hello, I've just had some warnings show up in my kernel log. I don't know if they're related to the troubles I've been having (I fscked after the last panic). please apply the following patch: re-add to reiser4_releasepage mistakenly removed page_count check. extra page reference is used to

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-03 Thread Edward Shishkin
Matthias Andree wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Hans Reiser wrote: You will want to try our compression plugin, it has an ecc for every 64k What kind of forward error correction would that be, Actually we use checksums, not ECC. If checksum is wrong, then run fsck - it will remove the

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-03 Thread Theodore Tso
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 04:03:07PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Ric Wheeler wrote: Mirroring a corrupt file system to a remote data center will mirror your corruption. Which makes me wonder if backup systems shouldn't help with this. If they are reading the

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-03 Thread Hans Reiser
Edward Shishkin wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Hans Reiser wrote: You will want to try our compression plugin, it has an ecc for every 64k What kind of forward error correction would that be, Actually we use checksums, not ECC. If checksum is wrong, then run

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-03 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 8/3/06, Matthias Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Berkeley DB can, since version 4.1 (IIRC), write checksums (newer versions document this as SHA1) on its database pages, to detect corruptions and writes that were supposed to be atomic but failed (because you cannot write 4K or 16K atomically

Re: 2.6.18-rc3 - ReiserFS - warning: vs-8115: get_num_ver: not directory or indirect item

2006-08-03 Thread Josef Sipek
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 03:08:32PM +0200, Jesper Juhl wrote: I just got a warning message with 2.6.18-rc3 that I've never seen before : ReiserFS: sda4: warning: vs-8115: get_num_ver: not directory or indirect item I have seen the same message (if I remember correctly) on my laptop

Article on LWN about recent discussions on reiser4 and inclusion

2006-08-03 Thread Jorgen Hermanrud Fjeld
The recent discussions regarding reiser4 and possible inclusion have also caught the eye(s) of LWN. I have made the article available for you, non-lwn-subscribers, so that you may have a look at it here http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/193663/9d2ac03195c775bc/;. -- Sincerely | Homepage: Jørgen|

Checksumming blocks? [was Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion]

2006-08-03 Thread Russell Leighton
If the software (filesystem like ZFS or database like Berkeley DB) finds a mismatch for a checksum on a block read, then what? Is there a recovery mechanism, or do you just be happy you know there is a problem (and go to backup)? Thx Matthias Andree wrote: Berkeley DB can, since

Re: fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree out of disk space aborted

2006-08-03 Thread Joel Heenan
Thanks Vladimir, this fixed the problem. Joel On 7/25/06, Joel Heenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/25/06, Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 08:37 +1000, Joel Heenan wrote: On 7/22/06, Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello On

Re: [nikita-3002]: assertion failed: carry_level_invariant(doing, CARRY_DOING)

2006-08-03 Thread Andrew James Wade
Thanks. I've applied the patch, and I'll let you know if any errors reccur. Andrew Wade