Re: Fwd: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-27 Thread David Masover
Sander wrote: > Gregory Maxwell wrote (ao): > >>On 10/25/05, Sander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Cheaper how? Two disks are cheaper than one? > > > If you opt for a copy of everything, yes. Because of a 500GB drive only > half of it is effectively usable. Two 250GB disks raid1 are much cheaper

Re: Fwd: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-27 Thread Sander
Gregory Maxwell wrote (ao): > On 10/25/05, Sander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That will kill performance badly. First of all the two read/writes > > needed, and second because you have to seek from one end to the disk > > to the other every time you read/write something. > > Kill it worse for w

Re: Fwd: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-26 Thread Hans Reiser
Please remember that the idea of the plugin is that it is selectively used on a few files.

Re: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 10/25/05, Ingo Bormuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree, real backups are the major weappon against classical data loss due > to hardware failure. > Other quite anoying and common causes for data loss are accidentally deleted, > overwritten or modified files. A _simple_ versioning plugin wou

Fwd: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 10/25/05, Sander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That will kill performance badly. First of all the two read/writes > needed, and second because you have to seek from one end to the disk to > the other every time you read/write something. Kill it worse for writes than a filesytem without wandering

My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-26 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 10/25/05, Hans Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This would not be (at least in theory) useful for RAID devices, but for > a user with a single disk drive, it might be useful to have a plugin > that creates two (or N) copies, and tries to allocate the two copies at > opposite ends of the disk.

Re: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-26 Thread Charles P. Wright
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 09:25 +0200, Sander wrote: > Hans Reiser wrote (ao): > > This would not be (at least in theory) useful for RAID devices, but for > > a user with a single disk drive, it might be useful to have a plugin > > that creates two (or N) copies, and tries to allocate the two copies at

Re: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-25 Thread David Masover
Konstantin Münning wrote: > Sander wrote: > Yes, having backups is better but that wouldn't help if it's your > laptop, the backups are 2000 miles away in your office and you have only > some Linux Boot CD?! ;-) Many see Internet access as an essential utility, like running water. If I have Inter

Re: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-25 Thread Ingo Bormuth
On 2005-10-25 02:28, Hans Reiser wrote: > > >And what is the advantage? You are not protected against a lot of disk > >failures (only against bad blocks, right?). > > It is only for very important files for computers which have only one > hard drive. Some of the work is with changing fsck. >

Re: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-25 Thread Konstantin Münning
Sander wrote: > Hans Reiser wrote (ao): > >>It is only for very important files for computers which have only one >>hard drive. Some of the work is with changing fsck. > > > Well, if the files are important, then you should have backups anyway, > whatever raid or similar you have. I still do

Re: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-25 Thread Sander
Hans Reiser wrote (ao): > It is only for very important files for computers which have only one > hard drive. Some of the work is with changing fsck. Well, if the files are important, then you should have backups anyway, whatever raid or similar you have. I still don't see an advantage in havi

Re: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-25 Thread Hans Reiser
Sander wrote: >Hans Reiser wrote (ao): > > >>This would not be (at least in theory) useful for RAID devices, but for >>a user with a single disk drive, it might be useful to have a plugin >>that creates two (or N) copies, and tries to allocate the two copies at >>opposite ends of the disk. Anyon

Re: My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-25 Thread Sander
Hans Reiser wrote (ao): > This would not be (at least in theory) useful for RAID devices, but for > a user with a single disk drive, it might be useful to have a plugin > that creates two (or N) copies, and tries to allocate the two copies at > opposite ends of the disk. Anyone out there still look

My Dad suggests a redundant copies plugin

2005-10-24 Thread Hans Reiser
This would not be (at least in theory) useful for RAID devices, but for a user with a single disk drive, it might be useful to have a plugin that creates two (or N) copies, and tries to allocate the two copies at opposite ends of the disk. Anyone out there still looking for a plugin to write? Han