Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-09 Thread David Masover
Christian Trefzer wrote: On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 12:01:42AM -0400, David Masover wrote: A warning isn't good? Would you rather it be an error? Of course not. It merely appears inconsistent to offer a root fs choice that may cause severe problems at bootup time. When I went to install my first

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-09 Thread Christian Trefzer
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 12:01:42AM -0400, David Masover wrote: > A warning isn't good? Would you rather it be an error? Of course not. It merely appears inconsistent to offer a root fs choice that may cause severe problems at bootup time. When I went to install my first SuSE (brand-new 6.1 at tha

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread David Masover
Christian Trefzer wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 01:09:42PM -0400, David Masover wrote: Christian Trefzer wrote: Few people keep a 32MB ext2 for /boot purposes these days, so it really is imperative that grub can read kernel images off a reiser4 /. I think there are patches, but I do keep a 32

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 2:05:23 AM, you wrote: > Under what, though? I don't want MS crap on my OS X (need that for work > ATM), and I can't imagine they've ported it to Linux. I have no reason > to boot Windows except for games, and if I was going to do that, I may > as well shrin

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread Sarath Menon
On 8/8/06, Christian Trefzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Grub is a bootloader and as such should (as an optimum) be able to grab kernels off of any fs. I guess patches are accepted by upstream developers? Grub v1 (The one we all know) is alpha status according to their devs. Its no longer under

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread Christian Trefzer
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 01:09:42PM -0400, David Masover wrote: > Christian Trefzer wrote: > > Few people keep a 32MB ext2 for /boot purposes these days, so it > > really is imperative that grub can read kernel images off a reiser4 > > /. > > I think there are patches, but I do keep a 32 meg ext3 f

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-08 Thread Sander Sweers
On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 20:05 -0400, David Masover wrote: > Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: > > Hello David, > > > > Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:23:01 AM, you wrote: > >> Sounds good. I don't have an ubuntu to test with at the moment, though. > > Well, both MS Virtual PC and VMWare are free of charge, so in

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread David Masover
Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello David, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:23:01 AM, you wrote: Sounds good. I don't have an ubuntu to test with at the moment, though. Well, both MS Virtual PC and VMWare are free of charge, so installing is a real snap. Under what, though? I don't want MS crap on my

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:23:01 AM, you wrote: > Sounds good. I don't have an ubuntu to test with at the moment, though. Well, both MS Virtual PC and VMWare are free of charge, so installing is a real snap. > Not to nitpick, but isn't that emulation? Or have they actually done > r

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread David Masover
Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello David, hi I have built today an r4-patched ubuntu kernel package (yes, debs!) Sounds good. I don't have an ubuntu to test with at the moment, though. Please note, that this is done all under virtualization (Microsoft Virtual PC). Not to nitpick, but isn't

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Monday, August 7, 2006, 7:09:42 PM, you wrote: > I mean, having Grub support everything would be nice, but if you're > reformatting anyway, I don't think it's that imperative. I have come up to that conclusion too. If someone would be getting an r4-enabled kernel on an already install

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread David Masover
Christian Trefzer wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 04:23:16PM +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: There also is an issue with grub. The kernel alone is fine for creating partitions (or loop devices) but with grub not patched we can't install boot partitions. No biggy, I guess, but still a problem.

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-07 Thread Christian Trefzer
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 04:23:16PM +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: > I tried to create a kernel package with reiser4 for ubuntu-server (dapper) > They ship a 2.6.15 (heavily modified) kernel upon which the current > reiser4-for-2.6.17-3.patch applies fine but unfortunately miscompiles, eg. > fs/reis

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-06 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
> I know it is very easy to create ubuntu kernel packages (I have done a few) > I might try to do one for current dapper kernel for i386. But it would have > to wait due to time my personal constraints (projects, etc.) Answering myself... I tried to create a kernel package with reiser4 for ubuntu-

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Sander Sweers
On 03/08/06, Maciej Sołtysiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>It's quite late for inclusion in the next Ubuntu release, but who knows. Maybe it is not, it's a playground, Mark would not hesitate to postpone Edgy's release if it requires polishing the whole thing due to "edgy" features. > Could you

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
>>It's quite late for inclusion in the next Ubuntu release, but who knows. Maybe it is not, it's a playground, Mark would not hesitate to postpone Edgy's release if it requires polishing the whole thing due to "edgy" features. > Could you contact him for us, and ask? It is more convincing when us

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Hans Reiser
Marcel Hilzinger wrote: >Am Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 10:55 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: > > >>Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: >> >> >>>On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: >>> >>> >>[...] >> >> >> >>>Are there any on the list who know o

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 10:55 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger: > Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: > > On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: > > [...] > > > Are there any on the list who know of rpm's for Suse/Redhat/Mandrake > > that include reiser4? One

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-03 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Dienstag, 1. August 2006 23:59 schrieb Sander Sweers: > On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: [...] > Are there any on the list who know of rpm's for Suse/Redhat/Mandrake > that include reiser4? Suse excluded reiser4 from 10.1 because they want to keep the kernel "cleaner"

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-01 Thread Hans Reiser
Sander Sweers wrote: > > >With the approval of Namesys I would like to add a new entry to the wiki >frontpage. > It would be very appreciated.

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-01 Thread Sander Sweers
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:12 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: > Hello Sander, Hey > > Tuesday, August 1, 2006, 8:10:34 PM, you wrote: > > Yes, and in case of gentoo there are already people maintaining an > > ebuild which pull in r4 on the wiki. > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Reiser4_With_Gentoo-So

Re: Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-01 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello Sander, Tuesday, August 1, 2006, 8:10:34 PM, you wrote: > Yes, and in case of gentoo there are already people maintaining an > ebuild which pull in r4 on the wiki. > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Reiser4_With_Gentoo-Sources Debian has reiser4progs and kernel-patch-2.6-reiser4: - stable: 20040

Ebuild/rpm/deb repo's (was Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...)

2006-08-01 Thread Sander Sweers
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 13:28 +0200, Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: > Hello David, > > Monday, July 31, 2006, 11:46:34 PM, you wrote: > > You must be new here... > ;-) > > I wanted to point out that because: > > Options B and C are all that ever seems to happen when reiserfs-list and > > lkml collide. >

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-08-01 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Monday, July 31, 2006, 11:46:34 PM, you wrote: > You must be new here... ;-) I wanted to point out that because: > Options B and C are all that ever seems to happen when reiserfs-list and > lkml collide. and: > The speed of a nonworking program is irrelevant. > The cost-effectiv

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread David Masover
Maciej Sołtysiak wrote: Hello David, - it is more expensive to: a) succeed at kernel inclusion b) argue c) waste time You must be new here... Options B and C are all that ever seems to happen when reiserfs-list and lkml collide. Is option A possible? The speed of a nonworking prog

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
Hello David, Monday, July 31, 2006, 1:30:47 AM, you wrote: > Amen. I do not want to see Reiser4 not succeed because of politics, and > it really looks like the only way to win the political war is not to > play. The technical stuff is really the last way in, but neither side > has said anything

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread Dan Oglesby
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 03:08 -0500, David Masover wrote: > Hans Reiser wrote: > > It might even be socially effective to shut down reiserfs-list until > > inclusion occurs. > > Maybe. It will be an inconvenience for me, if we have to. I'm not even > on LKML, and I'd rather not be -- even this li

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-31 Thread David Masover
Hans Reiser wrote: I think that most of our problem is that we are too socially insulated from lkml. They are a herd, and decide things based on what thoughts echo most loudly. To be fair, it's not the whole lkml you have to convince, just the few people directly responsible for filesystems a

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-30 Thread Hans Reiser
I think that most of our problem is that we are too socially insulated from lkml. They are a herd, and decide things based on what thoughts echo most loudly. That none of the shy developers working for me actively post on lkml hurts us quite a bit. It might even be socially effective to shut dow

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-30 Thread Joe Feise
Christian Trefzer wrote on 07/30/06 15:38: > Hi, > > I booted 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 today and later filled up my /opt partition by > accident, and guess what, reiser4 did not screw up : D Lucky you. I tried -rc2-mm1 today, and out of habit, the first thing I do is an fsck on my reiser4 partitions. And

Re: reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-30 Thread David Masover
Christian Trefzer wrote: Hi, I booted 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 today and later filled up my /opt partition by accident, and guess what, reiser4 did not screw up : D Hmm, I'm curious, though... How does it react to a few billion files? Sorry, I can't test this, but I will be testing MythTV, if not now,

reiser4 can now bear with filled fs, looks stable to me...

2006-07-30 Thread Christian Trefzer
Hi, I booted 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 today and later filled up my /opt partition by accident, and guess what, reiser4 did not screw up : D I already planned on forcibly filling up something less depended upon, like the portage tree, but studies kept me from playing and the scheduled java vm update took ca