Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 14.12.07 15:49:24, Cyrille Berger wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2007, Andreas Pakulat wrote: > > Are you sure about that? I don't know how SuSE or RedHat and others do > > their releases but I'd expect them to need at least 2 or rather 4 weeks > > after a KDE 4.1 release until its patched up/fi

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-14 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Friday 14 December 2007, Andreas Pakulat wrote: > Are you sure about that? I don't know how SuSE or RedHat and others do > their releases but I'd expect them to need at least 2 or rather 4 weeks > after a KDE 4.1 release until its patched up/fixed for inclusion in the > next release. So if the n

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 14.12.07 13:55:38, Torsten Rahn wrote: > Also keep in mind that if we target our release for May then the release will > most likely still happen in June due to usual delays! > > Most major distributors plan to release around that time, so I'd rather plan > for a release in May if we want to

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-14 Thread Torsten Rahn
> I agree to Mauricio's points, we should do a 'relatively quick' 4.1, then > try to move into a time-based release schedule. > > End January: Lifting feature freeze for trunk/ > End of March: (feature/string) freeze trunk/ > Mid May: KDE 4.1 I fully agree with Sebas here: What we need most right

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Alexander Dymo
On Thursday 13 December 2007 19:25, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > The point is that some applications are ALREADY waiting for inclusion > > since July/07! That is why I think a release in April makes sense, it > 4 months after 4.0? that's 2.5 months of development time at best. seems > rather short. In

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Zander
On Thursday 13 December 2007 18:43:53 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: > > i'd sooner see us (loosely) sync along with the Qt dev cycle (which has > > become much more regular, ~9 month per release) to keep a steady flow > > of feature / bug fixes going between KDE and Qt. > > Ok, keeping a pace with Qt

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Zander
On Thursday 13 December 2007 18:25:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > After 4.1, we should probably experiment with the 6 month release > > schedule that seems to be working for other projects, > > for certain values of "working". for at least one major project, there > was an immediate and noticeable de

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> If something can not be >> done in 3 months, it is doubtful that it would be ready in 4 or 5, at >> least in the open source world, right? > > i haven't seen that to be the case, no. The half of my brain that almost understands English is confused by this double negativ

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > of course that's what we always used to do. 2.0 and 4.0 have been the only > two > exceptions i can think of since i've been around the project. Yes, this was something we talked about during last Akademy, when there was the "suggestion" to move to 6 months cycle. We alr

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 13 December 2007 16:59:16 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: > Well, I think that *AFTER* 4.0 it is wrong to continue doing > feature-based releases, and we could experiment a bit with > schedule-driven ones. If it is 3 or 4 or 6 or 8 months it is open for > discussion. But the basic idea is: w

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 13 December 2007, Mauricio Piacentini wrote: > > > I'm not. :P You get basically two months to develop and add new > > > features and that's quite crazy. If we do this, you once again leave > > > out KDevelop and kdewebdev from the release because i don't think > > > those are going