Re: HAnsen v. Ann Arbor Public Schools 293 FSupp2d 780

2004-04-21 Thread Kim Daniels
As I noted in my initial post, it's of course true that the ACLU was not directly involved in this litigation, and that "the Pioneers' beef is with the school district, not the ACLU." The question that prompted my response, however, was whether the ACLU supported a tendentious view of the Establis

Re: HAnsen v. Ann Arbor Public Schools 293 FSupp2d 780

2004-04-21 Thread Michael MASINTER
The point, which should have been obvious, is that on the facts presented, the ACLU attorney got the first amendment right. The Michigan ACLU was not counsel for the Ann Arbor Public Schools or its employees and did not represent them in any aspect of this dispute. The Pioneers' beef is with the

Re: 11th Circuit Holds RLUIPA . . . *constitutional*

2004-04-21 Thread Michael MASINTER
Whoops; I forgot the first rule of proofreading (Proofread before sending) Sorry. Michael R. Masinter 3305 College Avenue Nova Southeastern UniversityFort Lauderdale, Fl. 33314 Shepard Broad Law Center(954) 262-6151 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HAnsen v. Ann Arbor Public Schools 293 FSupp2d 780

2004-04-21 Thread Kim Daniels
Rather than provide my second-hand view of events, I went ahead and forwarded Mr. Masinter's e-mail to Rob Muise, the Thomas More Law Center attorney who represents the plaintiff in the Hansen case. Here's his response: "So what's the point? That the ACLU didn't know the facts of the case, so t

Re: 11th Circuit Holds RLUIPA . . . *constitutional*

2004-04-21 Thread Marty Lederman
Uh, that should be constitutional.  And it's a section 2(b)(1) case, too -- probably the most difficult subsection to justify under section 5.        - Original Message - From: "Michael MASINTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

11th Circuit Holds RLUIPA unconstitutional

2004-04-21 Thread Michael MASINTER
http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200313858.pdf Michael R. Masinter 3305 College Avenue Nova Southeastern UniversityFort Lauderdale, Fl. 33314 Shepard Broad Law Center(954) 262-6151 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chair, ACLU of Flori

Re: HAnsen v. Ann Arbor Public Schools 293 FSupp2d 780

2004-04-21 Thread Michael MASINTER
Because neither the court nor Mr. Muise participated in the conversation between a GSA advisor and the ACLU, neither is in any position to describe that conversation. I spoke this morning with the legal director of the Michigan ACLU to find out what role, if any, it played in Hansen. Here is what

SFGate: BAY AREA/Committed to marriage for the masses/Polyamorists say they relate honestly to multiple partners

2004-04-21 Thread Rick Duncan
New Frontier For SDP? -- This article was sent to you by someone who found it on SFGate. The original article can be found on SFGate.com here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/04/20/BAGIG67LNQ1.DTL --

RE: Hansen case or, Clueless in Ann Arbor

2004-04-21 Thread Rick Duncan
I think Eugene is correct that if the school *sponsored* the panel it could discriminate on the basis of viewpoint even if it advertised the panel as a "balanced" one. But because this was a religious panel, the school could not sponsor it without risking an unconstitutional endorsement/coercion of