Re: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn"

2004-12-14 Thread Francis Beckwith
On 12/14/04 7:03 PM, "Ed Brayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Leigh Armstrong wrote: > >> There are many holes in the "theory of evolution." Evolution appears >> to violate the laws of thermodynamics. There are also many things that >> have been presented as evidence of evolution that have

Re: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn"

2004-12-14 Thread Michael MASINTER
How does evolution appear to violate the laws of thermodynamics? And if it does, why haven't physicists figured it out? Michael R. Masinter Visiting Professor of Law On Leave From University of Miami Law School Nova Southeastern University

Re: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "...

2004-12-14 Thread RJLipkin
In a message dated 12/14/2004 6:14:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the positions that get labeled "science" are "knowledge" and religion merely "opinion." In one of the ironies of political liberalism (of the Rawlsian sort), these distinctions turn out to be ar

RE: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolut ion policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn" .:.

2004-12-14 Thread Menard, Richard H.
Title: RE: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn" .:. If it's the seventh day shouldn't we all be resting?  7:30 pm and we're all still at our computers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[E

Re: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn"

2004-12-14 Thread Alan Leigh Armstrong
My training in physics was that a theory is an explanation that fits the facts. For example, the theoretical physicist comes up with a theory. The experimentalist runs the experiment and gives the results to the theoretical physicist who then modifies the theory. There are many holes in the "th

Re: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn"

2004-12-14 Thread Ed Brayton
Title: Message Francis J. Beckwith wrote: I think Sandy's right in this regard: the positions that get labeled "science" are "knowledge" and religion merely "opinion." In one of the ironies of political liberalism (of the Rawlsian sort), these distinctions turn out to be argument-st

RE: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolut ion policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn" .:.

2004-12-14 Thread Kelly Ford
Title: Message Perhaps he meant natural selection is an established fact.  News to me, too that "evolution is an established fact."  Sounds like Gould speaking.   (This is off-list).   Kelly Ford -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

Re: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolut ion policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn" .:.

2004-12-14 Thread Menard, Richard H.
Title: Re: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn" .:. Evolution is an established fact?  News to me. Richard Menard Sidley Austin Brown & Wood 202-736-8016 (office) 202-246-7408 (mobile) -Original Message---

RE: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn"

2004-12-14 Thread Francis J. Beckwith
Title: Message I think Sandy's right in this regard: the positions that get labeled "science" are "knowledge" and religion merely "opinion." In one of the ironies of political liberalism (of the Rawlsian sort), these distinctions turn out to be argument-stoppers rather than conversation star

RE: Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn"

2004-12-14 Thread Sanford Levinson
I just listened to an NPR segment quoting one of the supporters of ID saying that it is important that students be presented with alternatives to Darwinism.  That is, this is an appeal to the importance of a multiplicity of points of view.  Is there a principled way of deciding when that is

Wait, there's more: "Leading ID think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided, " calls for it to be withdrawn"

2004-12-14 Thread Francis J. Beckwith
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the pre-biotic soup: For Immediate Release Dec. 14, 2004 Press Contact: Rob Crowther Discovery Institute (206) 292-0401 x.107 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Leading intelligent design think tank calls Dover evolution policy "misguided," calls for it to be w

Re: Press Conference Announcing Legal Challenge to "Intelligent Design" Curriculum in PA

2004-12-14 Thread Ed Brayton
Ah, I was just going to post something about this. The Thomas More Law Center has offered to handle the defense for the Dover school district. I haven't seen any official word that they'll be representing the district, but the district would be foolish not to accept the offer. Well, let me reph