Re: Harm to Others as a Factor in Accommodation Doctrine

2005-03-13 Thread Brad Pardee
As I read this, I found myself wondering what the point is of having constitutionally protected free exercise if the exercise is only free when the legislature decides it is. The scenario you describe seems to be one where the legislature is free to demand or prohibit any conduct they like,

Re: Harm to Others as a Factor in Accommodation Doctrine

2005-03-13 Thread Jean Dudley
On Mar 13, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Brad Pardee wrote: ...would you say that the Catholic Church is required, by anti-discrimination laws, to hire women as priests unless the anti-discrimination law was to specifically exempt the Church?  It seems to me that the Catholic Church in America doesn't hire

Re: Harm to Others as a Factor in Accommodation Doctrine

2005-03-13 Thread Steven Jamar
The term hire refers to any position in which one is employed, regardless of how one got there or the motivation for doing so. There is, of course, an exemption for religious positions in religious organizations in Title VII and it would be required in any event under the Free Exercise clause.

Re: Harm to Others as a Factor in Accommodation Doctrine

2005-03-13 Thread Brad Pardee
I agree that the Free Exercise clause requirea an exemption, regardless of whether or not Title VII provided for one. However, Marci's position, as I understood her to explain it, is that there would be no exemption under the Free Exercise clause for a neutral, generally applicable law unless

FW: Institutional Capacity to Manage Exemptions

2005-03-13 Thread West, Ellis
Title: Message In response to Prof. Newsome's questions below, I would, first, simply repeat that my original question was whether anacross-the-board exemption from valid, secular laws given, by either a legislature or the Supreme Court,to religious persons/groups, and them alone, can be

Fw: Good News From Across the Big Pond

2005-03-13 Thread Paul Diamond
- Original Message - From: Paul Diamond To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:17 PM Subject: Good News From Across the Big Pond If I may be so bold as to give a perspective from the United Kingdom. The case of SB is extremely poorly argued and per incuriam

Re: Harm to Others as a Factor in Accommodation Doctrine

2005-03-13 Thread Alan Brownstein
Marci,my comment was responding to Marty's and Tom Berg's earlier post, about harm to third parties being part of the criteria courts employ in determing whether an accommodation the legislature has granted should be struck down on Establishment Clause grounds. Several federal and state court