Re: An Interesting Govt School Censorship Case

2009-03-04 Thread AAsch
Although I'm not claiming the school was correct in this instance, there is a context to the case that the ADF press release completely leaves out. I used to be surprised at the dishonesty of these ADF press releases, but now I see them as puzzles where the challenge is to find the actual

Re: An Interesting Govt School Censorship Case

2009-03-04 Thread Ira (Chip) Lupu
I appreciate Rick's calling our attention to this case, and I deeply appreciate Allen's amplification of the historical record. I forwarded Rick's post yesterday to several students who are writing papers for me on issues related to this case, but I warned them not to take the ADF release at

Re: An Interesting Govt School Censorship Case

2009-03-04 Thread Rick Duncan
I too appreciate getting a more complete account of the facts. I forwarded the ADF press release because it contained links to the complaint and to the pictures before and after the censorship. It is wonderful to be able to show the actual pictures--both before and after the restriction--when

Re: An Interesting Govt School Censorship Case

2009-03-04 Thread Ira (Chip) Lupu
Equal access does not mean the school must be totally indifferent to the content of the posters and flyers. Especially in a context in which the school has a history of Establishment Clause violations, it should have some discretion to make certain that it does not violate court orders or

Re: An Interesting Govt School Censorship Case

2009-03-04 Thread Allen Asch
Just to clarify the somewhat angry tone of my response to the ADF press release, that anger was a response to parts of that release like the one I quoted about the ACLU’s long-term record of fear, intimidation, and disinformation. As a long time ACLU volunteer, I found that accusation frankly

Re: An Interesting Govt School Censorship Case

2009-03-04 Thread Rick Duncan
Chip asks a good question about whether the school could censor the See You at the Pole group from saying All those who seek salvation through Jesus are welcome on their posters. First, I doubt if this group would ever say this, because part of the group's evangelistic purpose is to attract

Re: An Interesting Govt School Censorship Case

2009-03-04 Thread Marc Stern
Why is equality the test? What if school officials show that believe or go to hell is disruptive but not recycle or die? There is discussion of this problem in some of the school confederate paraphernalia cases Marc - Original Message - From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu

Re: An Interesting Govt School Censorship Case

2009-03-04 Thread Rick Duncan
Marc, I don't recall a hypo involving Go To Hell. I think if a school wants to be sure that it is not liable for violating the free speech rights of any group that is part of a public forum, it should avoid viewpoint based restrictions on speech. Any attempt to forbid Jesus is the only way