Re: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

2015-09-15 Thread Walsh, Kevin
Thanks, Alan, for the reformulation. I prefer something like this, instead: “Pursuant to Kentucky law, the county clerk’s authority will not be exercised in a way that forces him or her to act contrary to his or her religious beliefs as long as this does not violate the rights of others. All lic

Re: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

2015-09-15 Thread Ira Lupu
Kevin: Here is your version: “Pursuant to Kentucky law, the county clerk’s authority will not be exercised in a way that forces him or her to act contrary to his or her religious beliefs as long as this does not violate the rights of others. All licenses and other documents requiring the county cl

RE: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

2015-09-15 Thread Alan E Brownstein
I think I see one source of our disagreement more clearly now, Kevin. You suggest that the term "this office" has two meanings, the individual holding the office and the physical location of the office. I think, however, there is a third meaning. The term "office" refers to the government power

RE: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

2015-09-15 Thread Walsh, Kevin
Alan, That's a helpful clarification. You're right about this third meaning of "office." (And there may be more!) I find it helpful to think in terms of partial recusal: Davis is declining to exercise marriage licensing authority, rather than exercising it to comport with her religious beliefs

RE: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

2015-09-15 Thread Michael Masinter
Kevin, Under your proposed accommodation (leave aside the court order for now), who would issue marriage licenses in Rowan County? In your earlier post below, you write "the licenses are to be authorized by a human being holding a particular office (namely, by one of the 120 people holding

Re: Assessing a Proposed Solution to the KY Case

2015-09-15 Thread Douglas Laycock
The judge who recuses does not try to prevent his whole court from deciding the death penalty case. He recuses himself, personally; he does not recuse the government authority. Davis did not seek merely to recuse herself; she sought to prevent her whole office from issuing marriage licenses. An

CTA6 rejects Davis's KY RFRA claim on sovereign immunity grounds

2015-09-15 Thread Marty Lederman
In an order today the Sixth Circuit rejected Kim Davis's state RFRA claim which, realistically, was the only one in play. "We need not address the merits of her claims under Kentucky law because the Eleventh Amendment of the U.S. Constitution precludes the federal courts from compelling state offi