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Subject: RE: Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay rights and
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Well, it's true that there were limits -- clearly
unconstitutional limits -- on this right, in the form of Jim Crow laws
and the like
Paul Diamond wrote:
Interestingly, there is a similarity of argument on same sex issues in the
US, and the removal of discrimination in the UK on the subject of Islam
(although very different subject matter). Recent developments in the UK
include the Muslim marriage contract and welfare
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Subject: Re: Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay
rights and cudgels
Well, I'm surely not trying to pooh-pooh the religious
concerns -- merely to try to probe what, exactly, they are,
and how much these conflicts differ from
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Subject: RE: Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay rights and
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Let me note, by the way, how
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rights and cudgels
Well, I'm surely not trying to pooh-pooh the religious
concerns -- merely to try to probe what, exactly, they are,
and how much these conflicts differ from those we saw several
decades ago.
Eugene helpfully identifies
religious exefcise and gay
rights and cudgels
With respect to the notion that, before the dreaded 1964
Civil Rights Act, everyone enjoyed the traditionally
recognized ability of people in a free society not to have
the government tell them whom to work with, whom to sell to,
whom to buy from
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Subject: RE: Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay rights and cudgels
On a related note, several groups have threatened to boycott this
January's AALS meeting because of the main convention hotel owner's
anti-same sex marriage political activities (a sizeable
I tend to agree with Alan here. Of course there are occasional conflicts
between gay rights laws and religious beliefs -- principally in the commercial
sector, such as in employment and housing rentals -- but is it really that much
of a problem? Or is it a relatively infrequent phenomenon
I wonder which way the cudgel is being exploited (or maybe
both). It seems to me, for instance, that religiously motivated
discrimination in public accommodations against gays is likely also a
relatively infrequent phenomenon, partly because it's financially costly
to the discriminators,
Well, I'm surely not trying to pooh-pooh the religious concerns -- merely to
try to probe what, exactly, they are, and how much these conflicts differ from
those we saw several decades ago.
Eugene helpfully identifies two sorts of cases:
1. Businesses and property owners being required to
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I tend to agree with Alan here. Of course there are occasional conflicts
between gay rights laws and religious beliefs -- principally in the commercial
sector, such as in employment
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I tend
Marty Lederman writes:
I would respectfully dissent from [the] suggestion that ... gays and
lesbians really suffer much harm by being denied services or jobs or housing
on the
basis of their sexual orientation because they could get such services --
often at a higher quality -- just fine
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Marty Lederman writes:
I would respectfully dissent from [the] suggestion that ... gays
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As someone who
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