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I agree with much of what is said here, but don't think it fully captures
Madison's argument in the M&
lity, and thus Oregon v. Smith (1990) decided to "call a spade a
spade" and restored the original and historical understanding of religious
freedom.
Ellis West
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egon v. Smith (1990) decided to "call a spade a
spade" and restored the original and historical understanding of religious
freedom.
Ellis West
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I agree with much of what is said here, but don't think it fully captures
Madison's argument in the M&R. Here is what he says:
The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and
conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as
these may dictate. This righ
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As I have said repeatedly, I strongly disagree with the notion that Smith
created a new regime. It was an accurate statement of the exist
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[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of West, Ellis
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Actually I did reread the entirety, none of which contradicts the
first paragraph. Certainly Madison was concerned about such abuse,
though he of course was an unusual bird among the Founders (as was
Jefferson).
More importantly, the issue doesn't have anything to do with abusive
clergy. The quest
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Reread the entirety of the memorial.
Madison was very concerned about the abusive power of the clergy.
Marci A. Hamilton
Verkuil Chair in Public Law
Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School
Yeshiva University
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On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Richard Dougherty wrote:
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Thanks, Ellis, for your valuable post. Let's also add that the framing
generation understood and articulated a distinction between liberty and
licentiousness, as I have written before. And set
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I would think that this would be a matter of significance only for
those who afford some degree of significance to a jurisprudence of
original intent.
But if one does take such matters seriously, I would suggest that it
is hard, indeed impossible, to read James Madison's Memorial and
Remonstrance
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Thanks, Ellis, for your valuable post. Let's also add that the framing
generation understood and articulated a distinction between liberty and
licentiousness, as I have written before. And set a boundary on religious
liberty of safety and the public good. Indeed, pastors preached abiding by
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I fear that many of you will think I am pompous, if not arroga
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I fear that many of you will think I am pompous, if not arrogant, in saying
what follows, but I feel compelled to respond to Brad Pardee's post. For years
now, I have been reading all the posts on this blog, most of which have dealt
with the issue of when, on the basis of religious liberty, per
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