Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-13 Thread Rick Duncan
Volokh, Eugene" To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics ; Alan Brownstein Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:36 PM Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monumentat Oklahoma Legislature     I’m not Alan, but I would think that

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Duncan Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 6:23 PM To: Alan Brownstein; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature I have a question for Ala

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-13 Thread Rick Duncan
demics Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Wow! Allowing local groups with longstanding ties to the community preferential access to non-public forums (or denying access o

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-13 Thread Rick Duncan
___ From: Alan Brownstein To: Rick Duncan ; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 4:32 PM Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monumentat Oklahoma Legislature Wow! Allowing local groups

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-13 Thread Alan Brownstein
' Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Doug is absolutely correct here. The Govt wins if this is government speech and the Ten C display does not violate the EC, either because a majority decides the endorsement test does not apply or, if

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-12 Thread Rick Duncan
__ From: Douglas Laycock To: 'Rick Duncan' ; 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:05 AM Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandmentsmonument at Oklahoma Legislature That may well be with respe

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-12 Thread Douglas Laycock
ists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature I think Doug is correct that preferential access probably triggers Allegheny and the endorsement test. But Justice O'Connor is long gone, and Allegheny is ripe for re-consideration. I suspect the endorsement test

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-11 Thread Rick Duncan
I think Doug is correct that preferential access probably triggers Allegheny and the endorsement test. But Justice O'Connor is long gone, and Allegheny is ripe for re-consideration. I suspect the endorsement test would not survive re-consideration, given the current lineup on the Court.    R

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Penalver, Eduardo
onday, December 9, 2013 9:42 AM To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>> Subject: RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature The result and logic of Summum make sense to me, but I’ve been a lit

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Marc Stern
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Jamar Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:36 PM To: Law Religion & Law List Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature A county can surely do that - but the constitutional issue is c

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Douglas Laycock
_ From: "Steven Jamar" mailto:stevenja...@gmail.com> > To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu <mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:46:54

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Christopher Lund
n.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=363402 _ From: "Len" To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 5:31:33 AM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Isn't there a s

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Jamar
> To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" > Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:46:54 PM > Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at > Oklahoma Legislature > > Sunnum handles this, no? >

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Len
aw & Religion issues for Law Academics" Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:46:54 PM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Sunnum handles this, no? Sent from Steve's iPhone  On Dec 8, 2

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-09 Thread Len
igionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 9:46:54 PM Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Sunnum handles this, no? Sent from Steve's iPhone On Dec 8, 2013, at 9:43 PM, hamilto...@aol.com wrote: Inevitable. Marci

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Steven Jamar
display. > Marc > > - Original Message - > From: Douglas Laycock [mailto:dlayc...@virginia.edu] > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 09:47 PM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics ; > Joel Sogol > Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monum

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Marc Stern
& Religion issues for Law Academics ; Joel Sogol Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Doesn't sound like anyone involved has read Summum -- not the Satanists, not the legislator, and not the ACLU. On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 20

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Finkelman, Paul
e beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/08/21820518-satanists-want-statue-beside-ten-commandments-monument-at-oklahoma-legislature?lite Joel L. Sogol Attorne

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Douglas Laycock
Doesn't sound like anyone involved has read Summum -- not the Satanists, not the legislator, and not the ACLU. On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 20:22:14 -0600 "Joel Sogol" wrote: >Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma >Legislature > > > >http:/

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread hamilton02
- From: hamilton02 To: religionlaw Sent: Sun, Dec 8, 2013 9:44 pm Subject: Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Inevitable. Marci Marci A. Hamilton Paul R. Verkuil Chair in Public Law Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law Yeshiva University 55 Fi

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Steven Jamar
; 55 Fifth Avenue > New York, NY 10003 > (212) 790-0215 > http://sol-reform.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Joel Sogol > To: Religionlaw > Sent: Sun, Dec 8, 2013 9:24 pm > Subject: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Okl

Re: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread hamilton02
, 2013 9:24 pm Subject: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/08/21820518-satanists-want-statue-beside-ten-commandments-monument-at

RE: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Levinson, Sanford V
Prediction: They won't get it!! sandy From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel Sogol Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 9:22 PM To: Religionlaw Subject: Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legisl

Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature

2013-12-08 Thread Joel Sogol
Satanists want statue beside Ten Commandments monument at Oklahoma Legislature http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/08/21820518-satanists-want-statue-be side-ten-commandments-monument-at-oklahoma-legislature?lite Joel L. Sogol Attorney at Law 811 21st Ave. Tuscaloosa, Alabama