Re: re[2]: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager tr

2004-12-21 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Hi Michael- Last time you & I talked (about 3 months ago) you said you were running amateur grade gear on your IRLP node at the KOIN-TV tower. Apparently you recently changed to commercial grade gear, which is a good thing! Also, the last time you & I talked you REFUSED the suggestion of using c

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Coy Hilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, you should get it right. It has never been a > first class > Technicians license... Or ony class TECHNICIANS > LICENSE. We who had > to take the exams to get them knoww what they > are/were. I still give > exams for the General Radiotele

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: The 4 candles (this is nice)

2004-12-21 Thread Neil McKie
Took about 9 1/2 seconds to load ... Neil Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tin Sound Audio

2004-12-21 Thread Neil McKie
FYI ... In case you need some info on the ER41 receivers ... I have a 2 inch high pile of GE Datafile ER41 Series Receiver info here. 73, Happy Bah Hum Bug, Neil - WA6KLA Mathew Quaife wrote: > > Took the audio from the HI side of the audio pot on the MASTR ER41 > receive

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Coy Hilton
First..Don't be so thin skined, that's where political correctness came from. This group can be brutal from time to time, but there's some great help, and a wealth of experiance and knowledge here and everyone here has gotten nailed from the group and has lived through it.SO lighten up. 7

[Repeater-Builder] Fw: The 4 candles (this is nice)

2004-12-21 Thread Maire Company
Title: Message     To: Friend Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: The 4 candles (this is nice)   I received this and loved it.   Merry Christmas     and     Happy New Y

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tin Sound Audio

2004-12-21 Thread Mathew Quaife
Took the audio from the HI side of the audio pot on the MASTR ER41 receiver. Mathew > > At 11:00 PM 12/21/2004 -, you wrote: > >Is there a way to make the audio coming into the repeater a little > >more basey, like would adding say a 47 Ohm resister do it. Seems > >like certain users voic

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tin Sound Audio

2004-12-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:00 PM 12/21/2004 -, you wrote: >Is there a way to make the audio coming into the repeater a little >more basey, like would adding say a 47 Ohm resister do it. Seems >like certain users voices are very tinny sounding. Any thoughts. <---Are you running deemphasis? Sounds like you're

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager tr

2004-12-21 Thread mch
6 kHz?!? I hope you're not on a 15 kHz band with a bandwidth of 18 kHz. Joe M. mbloom0947 wrote: > > As for the deviation I have measured it with a Motorola Model > 2600 service monitor at 6 KHz, about the same as other repeaters in > this area. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. C

Re: re[2]: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager tr

2004-12-21 Thread Barry Thompson
I guess the callsign explains it all. --- mbloom0947 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > John, > > Since I am the "guy running the IRLP node" you > refer to, I thought I > might take a moment to reply. > > The equipment now consists solely of Motorola > GM300's, not amateur > grade equip

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Non standard CTCSS tones in Amateur service

2004-12-21 Thread mch
It's legal in any service. There is no requirement access by by any particular set of tones. Any CTCSS tone, DCS code, or any other code (such as LTR, MDC-1200, or anything) is perfectly legal. Non-standard tones are even part of most commercial repeater controllers. They almost all support the '

[Repeater-Builder] Tin Sound Audio

2004-12-21 Thread w9mwq
Is there a way to make the audio coming into the repeater a little more basey, like would adding say a 47 Ohm resister do it. Seems like certain users voices are very tinny sounding. Any thoughts. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://gro

[Repeater-Builder] Re: CW IDer

2004-12-21 Thread skipp025
Boyd's 1P controller will fit the bill quite nice, plus it will give you a measure of dtmf controll if you want. http://www.bdenterprises.com/products/ skipp > "K.Paul Boggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Need some direction and advice. Need a inexpensive > CW ID device to put on a GMRS rep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem frompager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It sure is - a mess, that is. Repeated offers to the guy to offer help with a Service Monitor, etc. have gone rejected. He's using a ham dual-bander mobile radio at a high-level site, and some of the garbage noise has caused one of the main local 2-Meter Portland Repeaters to kerchunk continually

[Repeater-Builder] Non standard CTCSS tones in Amateur service

2004-12-21 Thread Ronny Julian
I know a repeater that required a tone not implemented in the standard 38 would not make a it too popular but is it legal? I was wondering if a pair of these on a rcv link would discorage interference. http://www.com-spec.com/ts64.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on t

re[2]: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager tr

2004-12-21 Thread mbloom0947
John, Since I am the "guy running the IRLP node" you refer to, I thought I might take a moment to reply. The equipment now consists solely of Motorola GM300's, not amateur grade equipment. For the last six months or more both the 2m and 440 transmitters have had large cavity filters in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . .

2004-12-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Yes they do. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . . > > > Sinclair makes excellent dipoles. We switched to them several years ago > and never

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CW IDer

2004-12-21 Thread Anthony Ferguson/KB4ZGO
I'm not sure if you got this email from me or not so sending it again.   Try this .. see if may help you.  http://www.krell.com/amateur/RSSVR/RSSVR.html "K.Paul Boggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Need some direction and advice. Need a inexpensiveCW ID device to put on a GMRS repeater(not ashamed

RE: [Repeater-Builder] CW IDer

2004-12-21 Thread Paul Finch
Paul, Comm Spec has a great little one I have used several times in the past. Go to http://www.com-spec.com/id8.htm and check them out. Paul -Original Message- From: K.Paul Boggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:27 PM To: repeater Cc: Repeater-Builder Subj

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola GM300 Power-up Question

2004-12-21 Thread Ricardo Trujillo
Michael, The GM 300, if I recall correctly, has a small fuse in the main board, towards one of the back corners. Looks like a resistor (green, I think). Your RIB probably blew this fuse. Best, Ricardo, W3/HK4BHA -Original Message- From: mbloom0947 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tues

[Repeater-Builder] CW IDer

2004-12-21 Thread K.Paul Boggs
Need some direction and advice. Need a inexpensive CW ID device to put on a GMRS repeater(not ashamed to let others know who is responsible) Need a source and recommendation. Willing to purchase a used one if any reader has one for sale. Have one now, but impossible to identify maker to have i

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Advice on Business Band repeater

2004-12-21 Thread skipp025
Hi John, > "KI4AWK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My questions: > What kind of cost am I looking at for a repeater pair license? A no nonsense license runs about $350 to $550 complete, depending on what you want. > Does each user need a separate license? cost per user? No, each user can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2865

2004-12-21 Thread Neil McKie
I don't know about the present, at one time in the Dallas - Ft. Worth Texas area, there were two FM broad cast stations 5 MHz apart ... apparently the amateur community was using a 5.2 MHz spread on the 440 MHz band. If someone in Texas could bring this up to date ... Neil - WA6KL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . .

2004-12-21 Thread mike
Sinclair makes excellent dipoles. We switched to them several years ago and never looked back. http://www.sinctech.com/ Mike K6MJU > > > OK. > > One of the repeaters I help maintain (145.170 located in > Connellsville, PA on the mountain) recently lost an antenna in the > wind storms that hit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2865

2004-12-21 Thread Al Wolfe
Ken, This can happen when any two transmitters are transmitting at the same time, 600 khz apart. I've seen it happen to 2 meter repeaters when two uhf transmitters 600 khz apart are transmitting nearby when the 2 meter system was up. I've seen it happen near two AM broadcast stations 600 kh

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help in selecting 2 bay antenna

2004-12-21 Thread Richard Ranta
Seasons greetings to you all! Our club is in the process of moving its repeater and we're going to go with a new antenna. The problem is, the company who owns the tower has a brand new Decibels products A711 antenna. "Will this work on the frequency of 145.230Mhz?" I hope I'm not asking a questio

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help in selecting 2 bay antenna

2004-12-21 Thread Richard Ranta
Seasons greetings to you all! Our club is in the process of moving its repeater and we're going to go with a new antenna. The problem is, the company who owns the tower has a brand new Decibels products A711 antenna. "Will this work on the frequency of 145.230Mhz?" I hope I'm not asking a questio

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola GM300 Power-up Question

2004-12-21 Thread skipp025
Pins on the rear of the radio connector can be set with software for various functions. You must have these pins set up for the proper repeater rib connections or you take a chance on blowing a fuse (link) inside the radio. If the radio doesn't power up after you remove the rib, you've got t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread mch
Well said. It doesn't take a finely tuned sense of humor to see that my comment was meant to be funny. If you (as in anyone) didn't get it immediately, the ;-> should have given it away that I wasn't being serious. As for my credentials, I am not a professional comedian, so I can't help you there.

[Repeater-Builder] Intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread skipp025
>"kc4ih" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After much head scratching I believe that the > difference in frequency of the pager transmitter > of 600 khz is the problem Head scratching doesn't provide real answers. Are the paging transmitters running circulators? Are they licensed for the rated p

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater

2004-12-21 Thread mch
A farm is a business. If it's a family farm, the entire family can be considered employees. Besides, it doesn't take much to get a business license. There are even public safety entities on the biz band (FDs and EMS services are considered businesses, too). The main cost will be for coordination

Re: [Repeater-Builder] KFI down tower pics

2004-12-21 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 09:19 AM 12/21/04, "Mike Perryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This was a very historic facility steeped in AM lore.. Yep. The tower site is a local landmark, just off of Interstate 5, a few miles from Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm. KFI moved its transmitter location from downtown Los A

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola GM300 Power-up Question

2004-12-21 Thread mbloom0947
Subject: Motorola GM300 Model M34GMC29C3A UHF 16-channel Radio The radio was powering on and off ok using front panel volume control- switch. When I plugged a Motorola RIB into it for programming the power blinked off and I can't turn it on. Any suggestions? Michael W7RAT Yaho

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem frompager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Neil McKie
Thank you, sir! Neil - WA6KLA "Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer & Industrial)" wrote: > > No, you didn't !!! ;>) > > Kenneth Buley > Bullitt County DES CD-2 > Bullitt County Red Cross/Certified ECRVDriver/Operator BC-6 > Bullitt County ARES\RACES Coordinator KY4DES > > -Original

[Repeater-Builder] antenna question for 2M ham. . .

2004-12-21 Thread talviar4499
OK. One of the repeaters I help maintain (145.170 located in Connellsville, PA on the mountain) recently lost an antenna in the wind storms that hit us around the beginning of December. Antenna we had on the tower was a Celwave PD340-3 (If you have never seen a 4 bay folded dipole with the t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problemfrom pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Neil McKie
Almost the same problem in the greater Portland, Oregon area. One 2 meter systems' receiver was a half mile away as two onsite paging transmitters were 600 kHz apart and 75 yards from the repeater site. A few years later, one of the paging transmitters was shut down and the repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Mike Perryman
Thanks a ton!!  Not sure what I will use it for, thought of maybe ATV (FM modulation scheme)repeater or something... in on 1.2 and out on 900. I didn't really give it much though, especially since the elusive docs and what-not.  I have a 75 watt PA for 800 from a Micor that I had considered co

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Joe
Try emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Dave got one running on 927Mhz and I think he was able to get 300 watts out of it. The Nuke PA would do 300 watts, but lasted much longer at 275 or, better yet, 250 watts. Do you need cavities? 73, Joe, k1ike At 01:06 PM 12/21/2004, you wrote: >Joe, >Do you h

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Mike Perryman
Joe, Do you have any info on the Motorola Nucleus gear... I have a high power PA for 900MHz that I thought about trying to make use of, but can find no docs... TIA, mike At 12:56 PM 12/21/2004 -0500, you wrote: >The paging companies were more up to date here in the Northeast, Motorola >Nuc

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Joe
The paging companies were more up to date here in the Northeast, Motorola Nucleus and Glenayre/Quintron equipment. Some were capable of up to 16 frequencies in the same band. Joe At 10:23 AM 12/21/2004, you wrote: >Except that the vast majority of VHF transmitters/networks weren't >really cap

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem frompager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Consumer & Industrial\)
No, you didn't !!! ;>) Kenneth Buley Bullitt County DES CD-2 Bullitt County Red Cross/Certified ECRVDriver/Operator BC-6 Bullitt County ARES\RACES Coordinator KY4DES -Original Message- From: Neil McKie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:28 PM To: Repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater

2004-12-21 Thread James
If the proposed operation will be used to conduct the business activities of your farm, then you are eligible. James Steve Bosshard (NU5D) wrote: Are you eligible under part 90 to hold a license in the Business Radio Service, ie, 90.75 a 1, statement of eligibility?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] KFI down tower pics

2004-12-21 Thread Mike Perryman
sorry for the double post must be keyboard bounce or something... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] KFI down tower pics Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://gr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem frompager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Neil McKie
Cute ... I saw that too but declined to comment ... Neil JOHN MACKEY wrote: > > Hmmm, after 20 years of ham radio, past experience in commercial > 2 way & currently working as an Chief Engineer in the radio > broadcast field and possessing my Extra Amateur and GROL, I don't > know wha

[Repeater-Builder] KFI down tower pics

2004-12-21 Thread Mike Perryman
Skip, et all... If you would like a little history into the background of KFI the following is something that was posted the other day for folks in "da biz"... follow the link at the end for many interesting pics. This was a very historic facility steeped in AM lore.. mike KFI(AM) TOWER COLL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Sounds like a similar problem here in Portland, Oregon. We have a guy running an IRLP node here on what is commonly thought of as 2 meter simplex frequencies. The station is on a broadcast tower with high elevation running about 375 watts ERP!!! Mobiles 100 miles away can clearly hear the IRLP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread JOHN MACKEY
The (former) First & Second Class FCC licenses you are referring to weren't conbined into the "general class technicians license" (it sounds like you are confising the names of amateur & commercial licenses). Rather, they were combined into the "General Radiotelephone Operator License" (GROL) whi

[Repeater-Builder] RE: [rfamplifiers] tower pics

2004-12-21 Thread Mike Perryman
Skip, et all... If you would like a little history into the background of KFI the following is something that was posted the other day for folks in "da biz"... follow the link at the end for many interesting pics. This was a very historic facility steeped in AM lore.. mike KFI(AM) TOWER COLL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Jim B.
kc4ih wrote: > > How true and the same is being seen here. With the reduced activity > we are seeing some hams come back to the 146.640 repeater. We can > thank cell phones for the demise of the pagers. Thank you for you > input on the situation. > Ken > Yes, I do hope that those transmitte

[Repeater-Builder] KFI down tower pics

2004-12-21 Thread skipp025
For those of you who want a closer look at the downed kfi (Los Angles) tower. http://sakrison.com/radio/KFItowercollapse.html enjoy skipp Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from thi

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread kc4ih
Thank you John! Those replies are the very reason people hesitate posting to groups such as this. I missed only 2 questions on the 1st class test and none on my advanced ham test. I don't think I have to prove my credentials before posting but there they are. I appreciate everyones input,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread kc4ih
How true and the same is being seen here. With the reduced activity we are seeing some hams come back to the 146.640 repeater. We can thank cell phones for the demise of the pagers. Thank you for you input on the situation. Ken --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jim B." <[EMAIL PROTECT

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread kc4ih
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm, after 20 years of ham radio, past experience in commercial 2 way & > currently working as an Chief Engineer in the radio broadcast field and > possessing my Extra Amateur and GROL, I don't know what a "FCC

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
I think that most of us knew what he meant. Everybody just loves a wise ass, as if it's not intimidating enough to get on this reflector and ask a question. I'm really surprised that you two don't have all of your glorious credentials listed in your signature at the end of your postings so that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Jim B.
Except that the vast majority of VHF transmitters/networks weren't really capable of multi-freq on the fly as you describe. At least around here, anyway, they were virtually all Micor PURC stations. And most sites would not have allowed the transmitters to remain without cavites anyway. -- Jim

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Joe
You will find less and less narrow band cavities on paging transmitters lately. As the paging industry slowly goes into their death spiral of loosing customers, they no longer need 2, 4 or more transmitters at each site to deal with the capacity of pagers out there. What some companies are d

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Jim B.
All paging transmitters involved should have narrow bandpass cavities and circulators on their outputs. That's usually considered a must at any site. If the paging company isn't willing to spend the money for that, then they aren't to serious about staying in business. The good news is that VHF

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater

2004-12-21 Thread Ed Folta
Dear John   You may find it worth while to call me at 800.298.2850 We are in this business and understand the "Battelfield Logistics"   73 Ed Folta K9QPJ President Com/Rad Inc.        http://www.com-rad.com       - Original Message - From:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater

2004-12-21 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
John The same type acceptance rules that you mention for GMRS also apply to a part 90 repeater. Home built repeaters do not carry a type acceptance for part 90. The only service that can use equipment that is not type accepted is the amateur radio service and possibly the federal services suc

RE: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)
We have a problem here in Temple, Texas where one paging carrier operates a 152 system and another has 157 about a mile North of the 152 site. I cannot remember the exact frequencies, but 3 times one minus 2 times the other hit 147.240. This only happened when both paging transmitters were activ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Joe
Excellent reply, Eric. I worked for several paging companies for about 10 years. Although several problems I found in the past were caused by the paging company, just as many were found to be shortcomings in the repeater equipment or faulty hardware on the tower. Like you said, we really need

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater

2004-12-21 Thread Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Are you eligible under part 90 to hold a license in the Business Radio Service, ie, 90.75 a 1, statement of eligibility?   From: KI4AWK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Advice on

[Repeater-Builder] Advice on Business Band repeater

2004-12-21 Thread KI4AWK
I am a ham who is contemplating building a business-band repeater. I have a few questions that maybe you guys can answer and save me hours of reading and searching.   I want to do this so that my family can stay in touch. The business license would be in the name of the family farm. I k

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread mch
Maybe it's like a "Grade A Ham"? ;-> Joe M. JOHN MACKEY wrote: > > Hmmm, after 20 years of ham radio, past experience in commercial 2 way & > currently working as an Chief Engineer in the radio broadcast field and > possessing my Extra Amateur and GROL, I don't know what a "FCC 1st class > lice

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread mch
And pray you don't cause interference with any other repeaters. Joe M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If all that fails then screw the repeater co-ordinator and change > your split. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Hmmm, after 20 years of ham radio, past experience in commercial 2 way & currently working as an Chief Engineer in the radio broadcast field and possessing my Extra Amateur and GROL, I don't know what a "FCC 1st class licensed ham" is!! -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 20 Dec 200

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread k1eg
Ken the problem is not your equipment but simply a problem with the commercial pagers. Paging Xmiters are know for there sloppy transmissions. If you have access to a spectrum analyzer that is well calibrated go to the site and check their transmissions for bandwidth and see if they are within r

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread Eric Lemmon
Ken, Please advise exactly what frequencies these pager transmitters are operating on. There are a number of possibilities for intermod, but knowing the offending frequencies is crucial to a solution. Less than a mile from my home station, there is a hilltop site at which two high-power (3,500

Re: [Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread JOHN MACKEY
-- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:54:16 PM CST From: "kc4ih" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SNIP > virtually useless. After much head scratching I believe that the > difference in frequency of the pager transmitter of 600 khz is the > problem but have no idea how to solve the pro

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GP - Diesel Locomotive

2004-12-21 Thread Q
And I spent 10 years in the 70's building the GE E-60-CP's and the D- series of diesel/electrics here in Erie,Pa...gee,maybe thats why I like those MastrII's s much?!!? Addicted to gold anodizing I guess...or is it in my veins? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 12/20/2004 7:4

[Repeater-Builder] HELP: 2 meter repeater intermod problem from pager transmitters

2004-12-21 Thread kc4ih
We have 146.04/.64 repeater on a nearby mountain top. It worked great for years with a range of 100 miles or more. Since the phone company and a pager company installed their high power transmitters near the site of the repeater (within 100 yards) the repeater is virtually useless. After muc

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2864

2004-12-21 Thread N5IUF
You are right.  The crystal oscillator (channel element) noise is multiplied up in the GE multiplier exciter.  But the same thing applies to a GE PLL exciter.  The phase noise of reference oscillator (channel element) is also multiplied up, it's just not done in the same fashion.    Noi

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR-830

2004-12-21 Thread N9WYS
Nope – the “repeater fairy” came by and left this on my doorstep…  Early Christmas present!  J    Mark – N9WYS   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 9:05 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair Q-202G

2004-12-21 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bob, A bandpass filter should follow the duplexer, so that it does not affect the impedance matches between the transmit and receive cavities of the duplexer, and to the antenna. In each of the cases where I added bandpass cavities on the receive side, it was to limit the bandwidth going to an R

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR-830

2004-12-21 Thread k7pfj
I sure hope you did not pay the TKR-830 price for a TKR-820   Mike   -- Original message -- > > Well, gang. I finally have the monster in my hot little hands!! And I find > it is NOT a TKR-830, but rather a TKR-820... From reading the > Repeater-Builder's web page, I see

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciter in duplex service.

2004-12-21 Thread DCFluX
Instead of deviating the crystal, How about generating a super stable VCO using a PLL that has say a 5 second lock time instead of the typical 2mS lock time running all the time, this could even be frequency locked to a 10MHz source such as those found on GPS recievers. Then to modulate it, we wo

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciterin duplex service.

2004-12-21 Thread Coy Hilton
Here is a Fact, The GE PLL exciter is about 20db quieter than a multiplied exciter, very likely for the reason stated below. Think about it this way. To multiply a crystal frequency you have to have harmonics.(noise)..okay you multiply that and get even more noise..well you amplify each ti

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciter in duplex service.

2004-12-21 Thread Coy Hilton
Joe, youre right about the error in PPM. BUT taking a crystal and deviding it also devides the error in PPM by the same amount and multiply it you Multiply by the same factor so the reletive error is the same in PPM. A 12 MHZ crystal with a 2PPM error will be off by 24 Hz. Take that same crys

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystal Phase Noise?

2004-12-21 Thread Kevin Custer
Hi Scott Thanks for the reply Kevin-   ---Subject repeaters will have to remain unnamed as I currently enjoy a good relationship with their point of origin and I want very much to keep the situation that way. I will say however that transmitter circuit wise , they are es